Save Our Lake being direct, open and honest


Published/Last Modified on Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:08 AM CDT

The Daily Iberian’s editor, Mr. Zeringue unbiased position regarding AGL Resources versus residents illustrated two sides to every story. While companies are entitled to private meetings with public officials, one must question why exclude representatives from the opposing organization?

AGL Resources/Jefferson Island Storage and Hub has not been and is not a good neighbor. We have documented evidence of the devious methods used to reach their objective for storage of natural gas. We have not distorted our information, we have been direct, open and honest.           

There are over 1,000 salt domes in Louisiana. None became the “Swirling Vortex” on the History

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Channel and making international headlines. None in Louisiana have a 4,000 population within a mile radius of the cavern. None have unexplained bubbling in their salt dome, because … there are NO other lakes over a salt dome anywhere in the world. None have a magnificent tourist site, with archeological artifacts, a nationally registered historic home, where thousands visit yearly.

OUR drinking water will be affected. Our opponents say everything is just fine, they don’t have to worry about wells running dry, or that everyone’s drinking water is rich with salt!

In 1999 Argonne National Laboratory reported groundwater contamination from leaking caverns had “only very low concentration” contamination. Weeks Island Salt Dome caverns leaked oil into the Gulf, both Cote Blanche should not and Napoleanville has major cavern issues.

We still don’t know what causes the bubbling in Lake Peigneur, although we have a pretty good idea, and with all the information provided the citizens are still ignored!

I can’t think of one member of Save Lake Peigneur who isn’t involved in the energy industry in some capacity. There are choices. AGL/JISH did not have to dredge, they dredged because of their planned expansion. Why did they refuse our request to have an open question and answer session for the public?

They requested and received an extension until June 2010 for sonar and mechanical integrity testing for Well (cavern) No. 1 (one). Prior sonar indicated Cavern 1 has anomalies. The wells must be full in order to complete the testing. Therefore the response by Richard Hyde that a shortage of gas during hurricane season was the reason not to have the well tested is pure spin. If the cavern has another product to maintain why do we need more caverns?

Economics.  AGL/JISH will have perhaps ten permanent employees. Live Oak and Rip Van Winkle Gardens employs more than one hundred. The state receives income, property, sales tax each year from these residents. How much are 4000 residents worth? How much is one person worth?

AGL/JISH has spent millions of dollars fighting us, when if they had chosen ethically, their millions could have established a safer and appropriate location for natural gas storage.

Nara M. Crowley

Save Lake Peigneur

Comments

    Sharp Edge Knife wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:42 PM:

    " This is to Spoon and Rousseau
    It doesn't take very much to be smarter than DNR, no matter that they do this all day.
    Anyone that can make the statement "off the record" that the bubbling in the lake is caused by fish feeding from the shrimp and crab shells flowing from shrimp shops in Delcambre. They don't do very much, besides sit behind a desk all day.
    As for your friends not working, I know of several places that are hiring if they are interested. "

    Spoon wrote on Sep 4, 2009 8:21 PM:

    " Just an observation, but the more 'Save Lake Group' speaks on this subject, the more 'nimby' mentality. Let's be honest, direct, and open. The group is in a panic.
    Let's see what the meeting offers and the real truth will prevail and not propaganda. Hope to see ya'll there. "

    Rousseau wrote on Sep 3, 2009 5:11 PM:

    " Proof of what? Do you really think you are smarter than the DNR? You really think AGL pulled this clever ruse over DNR, but you see right through it?

    The DNR does this all day long. I'm sure if there was an issue, they would see it before you. Why don't you back off and let progress happen? We need the drilling contracts for this area. Several of my buddies haven't worked in some time. This would be a much needed economic boost, but you are stalling it. "

    Shape Edge Knife wrote on Aug 31, 2009 3:17 AM:

    " This is for Rousseau, you seem to know quite a bit about AGL. I hope you realize that the extension on Well # 1 is not because of the
    lame excuse they gave. They don't want DNR to have the results of the integrity testing. Therefore no testing, no proof. "

    Rousseau wrote on Aug 24, 2009 10:42 AM:

    " Okay, so...

    Your logic is that a Georgia-based company is getting favored over lifetime Louisiana residents in "Good ol' boy" politics. Further, the DNR granted an extension to test their caverns because of evidence the caverns may be unstable.

    The causes you give would logically lead to the exact opposite effects. Wouldn't a "good ol' boy" system favor the "ol' boys"? And wouldn't evidence of instability be grounds to NOT grant an extension?

    How do you explain the cause/effect relationship implied in your posting? It's still not adding up for me. "

    Marie wrote on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 AM:

    " "Spoon," NEWS FLASH: The state & AGL cannot settle until the public hearing on the "operational partnership" which will be held on October 1st & before going in front of the mineral board!!! I understand why you hide behind a moniker, very ill-informed.

    The governor will not "sell out" the residents of Lake Peigneur. Now, the attorney representing the state, Bernie Boudreaux, may very well attempt to "sell out" the residents. He allegedly has that reputation but we are watching him!

    "We the people" love it here that is why we are fighting!!!!!!!!! "

    Spoon wrote on Aug 20, 2009 2:47 PM:

    " Flash news. The State and AGL negotiated an agreement for expansion. Guess the Govenor sold you lake residents down the swirling vortex. Gotta love it here. "

    abitsuspicious wrote on Aug 19, 2009 3:33 PM:

    " It sounds like some people want to silence the Save Lake Peigneur group. hmmmm . . . . i wonder why.

    And in regard to Spoon's comment about putting unwaivering trust in our gov't agencies to protect the environment and our safety,

    I used to work for the government myself and there's one thing I've learned. Always question authority. "

    To Rousseau wrote on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 PM:

    " Hmmm?! You may be on to something....DNR might shut them down....stay tuned! Why do you think they received an extension from the Dept. of Conservation?

    It may be the "good ole` boy" politics may be coming to an end for AGL. Governor Jindal has given his word he is in support of Save Lake Peigneur and he will not waiver, the argument is the same. He is committed to protecting the residents of Lake Peigneur and the preservation of the Chicot Aquifer. He will not "sell out" the residents of Lake Peigneur! "

    Rousseau wrote on Aug 18, 2009 9:33 AM:

    " Hahaha you got me.

    Still no answer to my question. If the caverns are as unsafe as Nara Crowley claims, why does the DNR allow them to stay in service? Why would AGL be granted an extension for testing given Nara's claims of unsafe conditions?

    Pursuade me with your logic. "

    To Rousseau wrote on Aug 18, 2009 8:36 AM:

    " Do you still feel bad enough and aware or are you slipping.....you forgot to correct your buddy Spoon on not being able to spell "environment." Also, you may be aware of how to spell "naive" but you are not aware of correct punctuation usage. Ooops! A little quick to judge, aren't we?! "

    Rousseau wrote on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 PM:

    " Nara and Marie,
    For people who claim to be on the side of angels, you sure do present yourselves like a couple of bullies.

    What do real names have to do with online commentary? If your position is as strong as you claim, it shouldn't matter if questions come at you anonymously or otherwise.

    My main question after reading this is around your claims of the wells being unsafe. If what you say is true, why would the DNR allow the wells to stay? Wouldn't they shut them down? It just doesn't add up. "

    Spoon wrote on Aug 17, 2009 8:29 PM:

    " Thank-you, but no thanks Mrs. Crowley. I've seen you and your group many times on TV3 and it's obvious what your agenda really is. Why is it so important to know my name? As I said, I'm just a lake resident landowner with my own opinion which is in disagreement with your cause. You will never be satisfied with the real truth and facts. This forum really shows the intelligence of your group for what your purpose is. Stop spouting propaganda and stay focused on the real facts. "

    Verlie Langlinais wrote on Aug 17, 2009 5:27 PM:

    " To Spoon and Rousseau,

    We have invited AGL to meet on the Jeff Bougs show 1240 KANE but as of yet no one has responded.

    Maybe you would like to represent AGL and we could have a friendly discussion.

    At AGL's last public meeting at Jefferson Island many questions were unanswered and AGL was support to get back to us with answers and we are still waiting.RnLGn

    Verlie Langlinais "

    Nara Crowley wrote on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 AM:

    " Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if ill-informed. Spoon and Rousseau, I am not afraid to give my name in public because I have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Everyone striving to protect the lake are connected in some way to the energy industry. We certainly have nothing against the industry or business.

    If you are interested, which I don't believe you are, but in the event I am wrong, you are welcome to respond with your name and we will be happy to meet with you to present facts. "

    Marie wrote on Aug 16, 2009 2:45 PM:

    " "Spoon," got you. Here's a clue of how AGL practices "good business" & is such a "good neighbor." This is a direct quote to their shareholders on May 2, 2007 regarding the storage expansion at JISH. "Political conditions in Louisiana are changing, so we feel optimistic that a settlement is possible between now and the end of the year, if not we have preserved all of our legal rights to make sure we have the best chance to get that back on track." What exactly does AGL mean by that quote?! "

    sharp edge knife wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:20 PM:

    " Being able to spell naive sure makes you sound like an intelligent person. But being unaware of what goes on in our back is one of the reasons we are working as a group and have been successful in keep AGL from expanding. We must have some facts right. There are some people that fight for what they believe in and others that sit back and just complain and belly ache.Since you seem to be such an expert, I would love to hear your explanation for the bubbles and the salt water intrusion in our drinking water. "

    Spoon wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:44 PM:

    " There are state and federal agencies that regulate the oil and gas industry. Then there is DEQ. All these experts are here to help residents protect the enviroment and other safety issues. AGL is another corporation that must satisfy these agencies. But the Save Lake group doesn't like these agencies because they don't always agree with the NIMBY mentality. Just an observation, but worth mentioning. Thank-you Rousseau, well said. "

    Rousseau wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:28 AM:

    " To Sharp Edge...

    I feel kind of bad because you are making this too easy on me. I'd like to point out that I am aware enough to know how to spell "naive".

    Also, still no facts from the opposition. This is still just NIMBY'ism. If you are concerned about how this project will affect you, why not ask questions from the experts. You may or may not believe them, but Mrs. Crowley is not an expert. She has no qualifications or background in the business, and simply stirs emotion to make her points. "

    Fork wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:23 AM:

    " It appears a bit of sugar needs to be put in what Spoon is stirring. Neutral you say, hmmmm?!

    You claim AGL know's how to operate their business, that's fine, please be advised Lake Peigneur residents know how to operate & protect what is vital to them. AGL has met their match!

    If AGL is such a "good neighbor" why are they hiding the fact that cavern #1 has anomalies? Why did they request an extension to doing the sonar & mechanical integrity testing for one year on cavern #1? Answer...leaks!! "

    Sharp edge knife wrote on Aug 13, 2009 9:17 PM:

    " I am a lake resident, people like Spoon and Rousseau, have no idea much less knowledge of what goes on with our "Good Neighbors" AGL. If you would not have your heads stuck in the sand and have a little common sense, you would at least get the facts before stating such outrageous statements. Shame on you for being so nieve!!!!!!. "

    Spoon wrote on Aug 11, 2009 3:00 PM:

    " You got me Marie. Out of 4000 lake residents, you know who I am. I'm impressed. You have no clue. I'm just an neutral landowner, taking no sides. But it's people like you that upsets me and I do want to voice my opinion. Let the court system judge AGL, not you and your group. We saw how the judge overturned the new water usage bill. "

    Marie wrote on Aug 11, 2009 8:45 AM:

    " "Spoon" we know who you are and we know your connection to AGL Resources. It appears you have no concept or comprehension of the facts.
    What's getting old is AGL's non-strategic methods in attempting to piece-mill this project. To suggest they know how to operate their business, lets see, there is a lawsuit from the parish for non-payment of taxes in an enormous amount and the state has a lawsuit against them. That surely equates to good business operating practices! "Spoon," you need to STOP immediately! "

    Rousseau wrote on Aug 10, 2009 2:59 PM:

    " I agree with Spoon. This is just a lot of unfounded accusations. Where are the facts? What do salt caverns storing oil have to do with salt caverns storing natural gas? How do you hold AGL accountable for something that happened 30 years ago by a totally different company carrying out a totally different action.
    Is anyone else tired of the hysterical few holding up progress for the rest of us? "

    Spoon wrote on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 AM:

    " Another letter of gloom and doom. Again, no facts to backup your claims. It's getting old, leave AGL alone. They know how to operate their business, not you. "

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