Thank you Obama


Published/Last Modified on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:51 AM CDT

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I thank God for stem cell research and I thank Obama for lifting the restrictions on stem cell testing. If God did not intend us to go along those paths, he would have never given the scientists the intelligence to perform said research.

 

 

 

 

 

For you anti-stem cell activists who say that this research is an abomination because that’s not what God intended; have you ever taken an aspirin? Have you ever taken any medication? If so you are a hypocrite.

 

 

 

 

 

What if society dictated to not allow Sir Alexander Fleming to pursue his invention of penicillin in 1928? Or Edward Jenner in 1796, who invented the small pox vaccine? What if Dr. Christian Bernard were banned from performing open heart surgery? Where would we be today? Probably with life spans only to 45 years old.

 

 

 

 

 

I’ll bet that a vast majority of you naysayer’s if faced with the decision to either let your child die or have the chance of experimental research to save his/her life, you would chose the latter. You would make no different decision if it were a choice to have antibiotics save your child or die. If God didn’t intend for us to save people with medicine he wouldn’t have given the scientists the knowledge to do so.

 

 

 

 

 

If you believe in God, then you should believe that he works through all of us, good or bad. What paths we choose from what he gives us in intelligence determines our final outcome at judgment time.

 

 

 

 

 

Should we create embryos to destroy them? I say no. But, for the ones that they will destroy anyway, I feel that is wasteful, if you could save a life. If you believe in organ donations after death, it is no different in my opinion. 

 

 

 

 

 

That is what this forum is…. an expression for differences of opinion.

 

 

 

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Comments

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Mar 18, 2009 2:31 PM:

    " Adult stem cells are tissue specific stem cells and are more limited and specialized than embryonic stem cells.Stem cells from the umbilical cord are known as hematopoietic or blood-forming stem cell,is more specialized than embryonic stem cells,but it has the ability to generate all types of blood and immune system cells. It does not have the ability to form cells in other tissues, like the brain.Embryonic stem cells,with their greater potential to form lifesaving cells and their apparent ability to grow indefinitely in a lab dish,will likely lead to new treatments, new insight into into the origin of human disease. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Mar 18, 2009 2:30 PM:

    " Most scientist agree that embryos should not be created for the soul purpose of research, and they themselves consider this to be un-ethical. The scientific community have reached a broad agreement on guidelines and limitations concerning this type of research.The guidelines developed by the National Academy of Sciences are as follows:
    Use only IVF clinic embryos that are slated for disposal.
    Obtain parental consent to use embryos for research.
    Do not purchase embryos or pay donors.
    Do not create human embryos solely for research.
    Do not perform nuclear transfer for the purpose of reproduction. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Mar 18, 2009 2:29 PM:

    " Embryonic stem cells are derived from microscopic embryos created in a dish by in-vitro fertilization.(takes 4-5 days)The embryos are created for the purpose of fertility treatment,but not all embryos are suitable for this purpose and many embryos end up being discarded by fertility clinics.Embryos that would otherwise be discarded can be used for the derivation of embryonic stem cell lines with the informed consent of the donors. Answer me this, if they are getting thrown out, why not use these cells to unlock cures to help everyone? Scientist currently believe these cells have a greater potential to form lifesaving cells. "

    L. Boudreaux wrote on Mar 17, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " Close-minded? Braindead? Dingbat? I fault both the Daily Iberian for allowing the namecalling which only stoops to elementary grade level and the person posting this. First of all, I know Mrs. Romero and she is none of those things. She is a caring, Christian who only tries her best in everything she does. Secondly, stem cells planned for destruction is still murder. Call it what you wish. "

    catchme wrote on Mar 16, 2009 4:54 PM:

    " Contradiction,
    You are so on point with regard to the Daily Iberian and their policy. They allow this to get their own thrills but they only allow this to be printed by certain people. They restrict others and do not print them. Just a FYI for you. "

    Phyllis Romero wrote on Mar 16, 2009 12:58 PM:

    " To w - you are right. If it were the perfect world God intended we wouldn't be discussing this. And you are right that all of the commandments should be followed and if they were, it would be a better world. "

    contradiction wrote on Mar 16, 2009 10:06 AM:

    " Daily Iberian, I thought people on this forum cannot name call. Brain-dead and close-minded! Ya'll must get a rush out of some of these posts. I stop on this forum maybe once a month. Same ole', same ole'. "

    w wrote on Mar 16, 2009 9:29 AM:

    " Phyllis - I hope that one day you don't have to eat your words. In a perfect world where things are the way the God originally indented we would not be discussing this matter but we are. It is sad but remember there are 10 commandments don't just consentrate on #6. God gave us 10 for a reason. "

    Phyllis Romero wrote on Mar 16, 2009 7:44 AM:

    " KP: I Do Not listen to Limbaugh. I don't care if it is only on "embryos planned for destruction." I still believe it is wrong. They should not have been shelved awaiting their fate in the first place. It brings about a greater debate. I don't believe in artificially creating an embryo, therefore I don't believe they should be in the situation they are in. The problem is one thing leads to another, and before you know it we have lost all humanity. "

    KP wrote on Mar 15, 2009 11:18 PM:

    " Phyllis, you are one brain dead, closed minded individual. No one ever said anything about killing a baby to use stem cells. The stem cells in reference are embryos that are planned for destruction. If your want to crusade against anything it would be the embryo banks. Not obama. Dingbat. Get the facts and quit listening to Limabugh. "

    Phyllis Romero wrote on Mar 13, 2009 11:16 PM:

    " To w: I would never knowingly accept a cure from embryonic stem cells. You are right it would be hard to reject a cure if it were my child. But the point is to not make it an option so that our conscience can be free. I never want to violate an innocent life. The other point is that if the administration has so little respect for the life of an unborn innocent that can't defend themselves, do you think it will stop there? There's more to it than that. "

    w wrote on Mar 13, 2009 9:55 AM:

    " Believe me if any person on this blog was on their dying bed, or maybe their child or grandchild they would not ask if stem cell was used to create the cure they would say please give it to me now.Be honest no one would refuse medical treatment, don't be hypocritical. You may not agree with the research but you would accept the cure. "

    A stem cell to T.C. wrote on Mar 9, 2009 9:44 PM:

    " T.C. Don't put God in this Arena. God created the stem cells to become A Human, as yourself and your children.
    John 10:10 Satan came to steal, Kill, and destroy.God said in the beginning, Thou shall not Kill.And if you do that blood is in your hands.So what part did you play in the killing of Stem Cells and Baby's?A vote for Obama . "

    anon wrote on Mar 9, 2009 6:01 PM:

    " At the cost of murdered babies, no thank you. As a diabetic, I am in the target group for the promised "wonders" of this abomination, I say no thank you. The price is too high. "

    Frank wrote on Mar 9, 2009 4:50 PM:

    " Aspirin and Penicillin and small pox vaccine do not require that an infant has to be murdered in order to be useful. Evidence shows that stem cell research from adults are successful as opposed to embryonic stem cell research. So which one of you older people are willing to die in order to have your body dissected so we can get a hold of your stem cells? Sadly the infants don't get a chance to make that choice. "

    KH wrote on Mar 9, 2009 4:24 PM:

    " Embryonic stem cell research has not shown any promise to date. Embryonic stem cell research is going on now; it is just not being funded by the federal government.

    To try and compare what Fleming and Jenner research did to what is going on with embryonic stem cells is quite a reach. Fleming and Jenner did not destroy potential human life to achieve their results. What will be the next step?

    Your comments are devoid of any humanity. Very sad. "

    Phyllis Romero wrote on Mar 9, 2009 4:16 PM:

    " that it came from research using aborted fetuses. And just because God gives man the knowledge to create something, if it creates something bad, like the nuclear bomb, does it mean He wants us to use it? I don't think so. "

    Phyllis Romero wrote on Mar 9, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " The comparison of an aspirin or penicillin to embyronic cells in my opinion is not the same. Embyronic cells are a human life form, whereas aspirin and penicillin are not. The problem I have is where does it end? When does man quit playing God? These embryonic cells from what I understand come from aborted fetuses, most of the time, is that correct? That's the problem I have. Listen, I have a serious medical condition that could have me end up in a wheelchair or on a breathing machine, and I would not take a cure if it meant "

    another view wrote on Mar 9, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " I agree that God gave man the intelligence to pursue answers toward healing. He does not expect us to check(leave) our morals at the door. Stem cell research does not have to be only on an aborted fetus(baby). There are many other avenues to be taken without taking the life of an unborn human. Did Obama lift that stipulation? If not it needs to be declared off limits. This was set in Bushes policy, no stem cell research on the unborn or aborted fetus(baby). You need to pay attention. "

    Mike wrote on Mar 9, 2009 3:23 PM:

    " T.C. Wake up and smell the boudin! Embryonic Stem Cell research has never stopped. The only thing that will change is now you and I will be paying for it instead of private funding. The dreaded Bush only stopped the government from funding it.

    It's just Obama tooting his horn and spending more money he doesn't have and making you believe he is taking care of you! Embryonic Stem Cells have never saved a life. Stem Cells harvested from adults have. "

    CajunJedi wrote on Mar 9, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " My response to you is that the same research can and has been done with adult stem cells. Why the push to use embryos.

    Your analogy about God giving us the knowledge to do this litany of things is fallace. God gives us free will, we choose how we are going to do things. To use you analogy, God gave us guns and the knowledge of how to use them so killing must be okay. "

    Stretching it wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:44 PM:

    " You are stretching things in your "OPINION" asprin, penicillian, antibiotics,open heart surgery, - didn't require the harvesting of human beings for the sole purpose of killing them in the name of science. While some of the research while fine tuning modern day medicine may have hurt or killed people, the orginial intention was not to KILL, but to help. To justify murder for science- then Hilter should be applauded by your statements, not disliked. That's what he did and where many of our modern medicinal techniques come from. - Concentration camps, toture and murder. "

    Did you know wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:38 PM:

    " So now you are so happy that Obama has reversed that decision. For what reason??

    It has been PROVEN that embryonic stem cells are not the best yet you people are still fighting to have the right to harvest these BABIES for what possible gain.
    Mediocre research?
    Just to be able to say I can kill in the name of science??
    To say that god has provided this knowledge for benefit is like saying he allowed AIDS and Cancer for population control.

    People like you are sick - i will pray for you. "

    Did you Know wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:35 PM:

    " Did you know that Bush did not stop funding to stem cell research, he just restricted EMBRYONIC stem cell research and focusted studies on Adult stem cells which are proven better than embryonic?? "

    Did you know wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:31 PM:

    " Did you know that you can have your own child's stem cells harvested upon birth from umbilical cord? This is expensive but worth it. "

    Did You Know wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:30 PM:

    " Did you know that you can obtain stem cells from ADULTS much easier than embryonic? "

    Did you Know wrote on Mar 9, 2009 2:29 PM:

    " Did you know that the stem cells from ADULTS show greater promise than embryonic? "

    Kim B wrote on Mar 9, 2009 12:35 PM:

    " Okay let’s not talk about if it is “right” or “wrong”. Should we be spending money on this when there are so many other things going on right now.
    I think He is trying to do too much at one time. "

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