Sheriff, New Iberia working on contract

BY JIM MUSTIAN AND MARY CATHARINE MARTIN
THE DAILY IBERIAN
Published/Last Modified on Friday, December 26, 2008 2:07 PM CST

Officials have gone to the negotiating table from the Iberia Parish Sheriff’s Office and city of New Iberia to consider several amendments to their dated contract in an effort to establish a clearer set of playing rules and improve cooperation between the two entities at a time of rising costs.

Sheriff Louis Ackal’s administration is pushing for more money from the city to defray its costs and debt, while city officials say they would like to see more accountability on the part of the Sheriff’s Office than has been afforded in the past.

Vague to the point of muddying the waters is how several officials involved in the negotiations characterized the current contract, signed more than four years ago when former Sheriff Sid Hebert and former Mayor Ruth Fontenot were still in power.

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“There are a lot of ambiguities,” said Steve Elledge, the Sheriff’s Office’s lawyer. “It was signed during the previous administration and there’s a lot we don’t understand.”

Mayor Pro Tem Freddie DeCourt called the contract “pitiful.”

“There are no performance indicators,” DeCourt said. “It’s a very vague contract to spend that much money.”

Curry said the city pays the Sheriff’s Office about $3.4 million a year for its services, a figure adjusted annually according to the consumer price index. That amount is up from the original rate of $2.9 million.

City officials said they are counting on clearer language to translate into a more specific scope of services the Sheriff’s Office is obligated to provide and a stricter set of rules to which each side adheres.

Mayor Hilda Curry said she will push to add to the contract a means of recourse for when the Sheriff’s Office fails to provide a service it has promised.

“In the past, if there were two officers patrolling and we were supposed to have 10, we would have no recourse,” Curry said. “There should be some kind of accountability.”

The contract states the city is entitled to receive monthly reports, but there have been times they were not sent, Curry said.

For years, Curry and other city officials have requested maps of district-by-district crime breakdowns.

“I’ve been preaching that for over four years,” DeCourt said. “But it’s a new administration, so I’m being patient until early next year.”

The Sheriff’s Office, meanwhile, is asking for more money, though how much they’re asking for remains unclear. Elledge declined to discuss specifics but said, “It takes more money to run a police department now than it did then,” referring to the contract’s signing in June 2004.

But Curry said it is too early to say whether the city would be willing to spend more money on Sheriff’s Office services.

“They’ve presented some figures showing what it’s costing them to operate,” Curry said. “But there’s no way we can pay what they’re showing.”

Curry said the city will reassess the services it receives from the Sheriff’s Office before deciding whether paying more money is in its best interests.

“After four years, I know what I’d like to see,” Curry said, “but I wanted to give (Ackal) some time to see what he’d like.”

Another change in the works involves the Sheriff’s Office’s use of the 911 Communication Center in front of City Hall. Fontenot and Hebert signed a five-year agreement in 1999 stating there would be no charge for the use of the building. Curry said she would like to see that changed.

The city also plans to increase its compensation to the parish jail for housing city residents. The city pays $22.39 per day for each adult city resident in the parish jail. Curry said this price will increase to $24.39 per day, per person.

“There’s a substantial cost that the city still bears a burden for when it comes to law enforcement issues,” Curry said.

Comments

    yes it was wrote on Jan 12, 2009 3:34 PM:

    " deputies were sent to the academy with the previous administration it did not cost extra to send them there suppleental pay is just that "Supplemental" Ackal sent 2 dozen because he moved them from oter areas of the department and he hired some from the street too. It had nothing to do with you implying that SId Hebert didn't train hsi deputies. "

    To OK wrote on Jan 12, 2009 11:23 AM:

    " Sherrif Ackal never hid the fact that he kept most of the IPSO employees. He also had to send about 2 DOZEN deputies to the POLICE ACADEMY before he would put them back on the road. That was not a priority with the previous administration because they could legally be worked on the road for 2 years before sending them to the police academy (costing IPSO less money). They are being trained better now, and it's an ongoing process. If they mess up, they can be diciplined or dismissed, and some have been. "

    OK Contd wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:45 PM:

    " The key factor being applying in the first place. Not all NIPD applied for jobs. Hey ZOE, I wonder if you would feel the same if Sid would have asked for more money! I've watched your post and it is very apparent that you support all the Ackal does and doesn't do. "

    OK wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:42 PM:

    " Well you are correct in aying that Ackal KEPT the majority of the officers from the previous adminstration. Finally, the truth revealed. Now, if we can just get the public to accet that when one of them do wrong it is NOT the previous administrations' fault but the deputy himself and/or the current adminstration. Another truth finally revealed is the fact that NOT all NIPD officers applied for jobs with the Hebert administration. The public balmed Sid for not keeping his word when he said everyone would keep their job if they applied. "

    Joe wrote on Jan 11, 2009 12:38 AM:

    " To: To Joe, no sir, it seems like you know very little, the narcotics was the most corrupt unit in all of south Louisiana. "Missing" evidence (drugs)from the evidence finding its way back on the street and so on. You call that a silver lining? I call that text book corruption "

    To why bother wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:12 PM:

    " (cont.) When Louis Ackal won the sheriff's election, the sheriff's department was understaffed. He kept the majority of the sheriff's dept. employees, with a few changes. He hired some former NIPD employees, along with some from the state police, and officers from a few other police dept.'s and sheriff's dept.'sfrom surrounding areas. Sheriff Ackal has to meet and maintain minimium staffing requirements in his department also. He has increased street patrols, traffic control, and is addressing higher crime areas. "

    To why bother wrote on Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM:

    " You complain about former NIPD officers working for Sheriff Louis Ackal.
    In 2004 Sheriff Hebert presented his law enforcement contract proposal to everyone in attendance in the city council meeting room. Sheriff Hebert said "The NIPD has some of the finest young officers in Acadiana. We do not have the manpower to do this without the inclusion of both departments." Many former NIPD officers went to work for him. Many others chose not to apply and went to work elswhere. Through out the contract Hebert had difficulties hiring and/or keeping a minimum staff. "

    Zoe wrote on Jan 10, 2009 3:42 PM:

    " And to add to this, who hasn't noticed a huge increase in law enforcement presence in New Iberia ? I say it is obvious there is a "new sheriff" in town and I am more happy than sad.

    And anyone who thinks law enforcement is not going to cost has their head in the sand. I am glad money was borrowed to buy equipment for our officers. Who wants a police force that has old cars and officers that have no training or equipment? "

    Zoe wrote on Jan 10, 2009 3:35 PM:

    " It seems to me that the City is saving a huge amount of money at the Sheriff's expense. If the city was paying $5 million years ago, who in their right mind would do the job for $3 million.

    The money saved by contracting with the Sheriff is by elimination of duplicated services like communications, supervisors, administrative costs.

    And didn't Hebert appoint someone as a liason to monitor services. If so, how did he let Hebert get by w/ only 2 officers instead of 10 ? And now Ackal is criticized for giving us 10? "

    To Joe wrote on Jan 9, 2009 3:21 PM:

    " Joe you KNOW very little. During this alleged consolidation I had a brief conversation with then Mayor Fontenot who stated "The only silver lining with NIPD is the narcotics unit". Last I checked that is where Adcock and Barnett worked!!! So if you do not know the facts please don't comment. The union demanding a pay raise, and the reinstatement of two terminated officers is what did her in. As far as Hebert he was like a snake just sitting back waiting for the oppurtunity to strike. And by the way you must want to be the Chief of Police!!! "

    Why bother wrote on Jan 8, 2009 9:14 PM:

    " Why exactly are we even discussing bringing back the NIPD? The fact is that the NIPD already exist and it's called Iberia Parish Sheriff Department. Look around and try to dsipute this all you want they are here and unless you sleep under a rock, you must be blind to the fact that they are disbanned. The ONLY difference is they are sheriff's deputies and NOT police officers. Oh yeah, they have more freedom to conduct themselves on/off duty however they want too under the Ackal leadership! "

    To IPSO Revenue Sources are not Extra wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:23 PM:

    " Is that why the mayor claimed the city was paying the sheriff's dept. $5 million for services on KATC's 10pm news Wednesday night?

    It is much safer within the city than previously...pay mayor. "

    Ed wrote on Jan 8, 2009 6:36 PM:

    " You know this is a crock! Ackal was spending money like there was no tomorrow. before he was even in office buying new vehicles, uniforms, new furniture, etc. On top of that, he has hired his "posse" paying them exhorbitant salaries. Now he's trying to say he needs more money. He should have waited until he was in office and saw what he was faced with before he started spending money he did not have. Now it will cost the taxpayers by either reinstating the NIPD or paying more taxes! "

    JoAnn wrote on Jan 8, 2009 4:47 PM:

    " I think it is great that the City and Parish are addressing this contract issue. Protection from crime at any level,... is there really a price tag for that? I think not. The people who reside within the city limits deserve the same protection as those outside. And, with the open admission that at times there were only 2 Deputies assigned to patrol the city, not only is that irresponsible on the Parish Commander in Charge who allowed this to occur, but it is putting citizens and Deputies in danger! Change the contract-be accountable! "

    Waiting for Answer wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:56 PM:

    " In 2004, Mayor Fontenot, the majority of the City Council, Sheriff Hebert, with assistance from the Chamber of Commerce, persuaded the citizens of New Iberia that the Sheriff Department could provide law enforcement cheaper.

    Do the vendors give the Sheriff Department better deals? Are Deputies willing to work for lower salaries? Can anyone explain why the Sheriff Department can provide law enforcement cheaper? "

    IPSO Revenue Sources are Not Extra wrote on Jan 8, 2009 12:03 PM:

    " (cont'd) Because the sheriff's dept. is entitled to those funds either way, they don't defray additional costs to the sheriff's dept. to provide all of the city's police services with the law enforcement contract. The free use of the entire 9-1-1 center building was only for 5 years, will expire in 6 mo., and the city wants to begin charging IPSO to rent it. She also cited the city's costs for a private security company, but they have nothing to do with what the city residents are paying for law enforcement, as they cannot enforce any laws. "

    IPSO Revenue Sources are Not Extra wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 AM:

    " The mayor spoke today about the $3.4 million the city is currently paying IPSO for the law enforcement contract. She then added in figures that the sheriff's dept. recieves from the city for housing prisoners, from city sales taxes, from city property taxes, and 9-1-1 telephone fees, to say that's what the city residents are paying for law enforcement. The sherrif's dept. was recieving all of those other revenues prior to the law enforcement contract of and could continue to do so without the contract. She also added in the (temporarily) free rent of the 9-1-1center. "

    To Transplanted Politics as Usual wrote on Jan 8, 2009 9:12 AM:

    " The TRUTH is "Better and Cheaper" was Sheriff Sid Hebert's slogan back when he proposed his law enforcement contract in front of the mayor, city council, public, and news media with a speech and slide show in 2004.
    In 2005, approximately 3000 people voted to keep the poorly written law enforcement contract and about 2000 people voted against it.
    Louis Ackal never claimed he could do it all cheaper. Mr. Ackal wanted it done right. The people elected Sheriff Ackal, and I believe he has provided better service since taking office in July 2008. "

    Make the call wrote on Jan 8, 2009 5:59 AM:

    " Shoe do had the right idea at onr of the council meetings. He said call the governor and call out the National Guard.Well ,any takers? "

    Politics as usual wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:28 PM:

    " I seem to recall candidate Ackal claiming he could fulfill the city contract better and cheaper than Sid Hebert. Now Sheriff Ackal wants out of the contract. Guess that was another empty campaign promise.

    I also seem to recall a city vote regarding the NIPD. Most public predictions had the NIPD returning. 60% of the voters disagreed. There were more smart people in this city than I believed. "

    George wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:29 PM:

    " Be careful what you wish for, in an elected Chief. He won't be controlled by the Mayor or the Council. But will be controled by the officers who will be civil service. If the officers don't like the elected chief, all they have to do is make a large number of arrest and issue a large number of tickets prior to an election, and the chief will not get re-elected. As long as the officers work within civil service guide lines the elected chief can't do a thing to them. "

    Joe wrote on Jan 7, 2009 1:58 PM:

    " I see an NIPD in the future at either rate. If the city wants more control over the law enforcement, the only way is to get the NIPD back. I think and NIPD without the past cast of characters would be a great thing. With a good Chief that is elected. Now cith government, the ball in in your court and btw I am a city resident and 100% voter "

    Weigh It Out wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:18 PM:

    " What if the city decided not to pay for all of what it costs the sheriff's dept. to fully abide by the contract with a minimum of 10 deputies assigned to the city at all times,etc.? Would the mayor and city council prefer a lack of services like they had before Sheriff Ackal took office. Or Sheriff Ackal could decide the contract is not financially feasible and give them two years written notice to get out of the contract, telling them to rebuild a city police deptartment. Which might cost the city less? "

    District 8 resident wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:15 PM:

    " Didn't you people in the city vote for this? Or was it not vote when less than 30% voted? This is your messed up problem not ours. The sheriff office is for the people in the parish. Open up yoyr checkbook and get ready to pay higher taxes. Where have you gone Ruth Fontenot? "

    Joe wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:14 PM:

    " Great comments!!!!Those two individuals along with about 3 more were the entire problems of the NIPD. You are right, if Ackal doesn't wake up, they will bring him down as well. I believe that Ackal is a good person, but unfortunately he seems to be oblivious to whats really happening around him. "

    To Re-negotiate or Not wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:56 AM:

    " The NIPD is long gone. Remeber that in 2004 Mayor Fontenot said the NIPD was going to cost the city nearly 5 million dollars per year to keep, so she and the city council got rid of it to save our city money. The 10 year loosely written contract was purposely written in the sheriff dept's favor. Our new Sheriff Louis Ackal recently inherited this contract and there's really not much incentive to re-negotiate if it wouldn't benefit his dept. enough to do so. "

    Also agrees with Joe wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:31 AM:

    " By letting MR. Adcock be in charge of any narcotics department ,would be the same as letting the fox gard the hen house..Maybe after he and MR. Barnett team up again they could bring down the sheriff department just like they did with the NIPD.I just hope MR. Ackal can see through this. "

    I agree with Joe wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:51 PM:

    " I wondered what the city council meetings would dish out with Adcock at the helm once Acakl took over. I guess very little is wrong with the law enforcement contract now and we have a check and balance system now and we have a flawless line of communication RIGHT? Adcock is very biased so much so he will take over the Lieutenant job in narcotics as soon as Ackal hands out his suspension/demotions in that division! Wait and see if I'm right! Grease the wheels why don't you! "

    Joe wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:40 PM:

    " Well, as I said before, the city should reinstate the NIPD without the corrupt cops it had before. Also, the Chief should be elected otherwise we will end up with a clown like Adcock as the chief. He was part of the problem before the "consolidation". Any negitave since July 1st, he could atleast try to be unbiased towards Ackal "

    ACR wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:38 PM:

    " Get rid of civil service in Iberia Parish. Poeple get comfortable in their jobs and feel they cant be touched. When someon HAS to perform to keep their jobs they perform better. Thus the reason for the collaspe of the last police dept.we had here. Cronies hiring cronies. Cops shooting bad guys and waring the spent bullet around his neck.OH YEA it happened ask former Mayor Bobby Bodin...He repremanded the guy.--I want to know how he got the bullet? It should have been ballistics evidence. "

    Copper wrote on Jan 4, 2009 8:50 PM:

    " Be advised the law has changed. The civil service Fire Dept can now stand alone. It no longer requires any employee of the Police Dept. However if they revive the Police Dept, it must be civil service. But being as it has been longer than 4 years, you can start from scratch, hiring and placing which ever individuals you hire where ever you want them. You do not have to hire the old dept back. "

    Attorney at Law wrote on Jan 4, 2009 7:14 PM:

    " Thank you for clearing that up. One tends to forget about the police liaison position. Since July 1 has anything negative been said about the Sheriff's Dept? Numerous incidents have occurred where some type of "scathing" report should have been filed.
    Oh well, I guess it's none of my business........... "

    TO Atty. at Law wrote on Jan 4, 2009 3:28 PM:

    " That would require changing state law and the State Constitution. LA state law affects cities with a population of more than 13,000 that have both a fire dept. and a police dept. If one of those two depts. is civil service, then the other dept. is required to be also. For NI's fire dept. to still remain within civil service, there must be a civil service police dept. consisting of a minimum of one employee. That's currently the city's police liason to the sheriff's dept. City charter's can't supercede state laws. "

    My 2 Cents wrote on Jan 4, 2009 5:41 AM:

    " Mayor Curry should appoint one of her Blue Ribbon committees to study the law enforcement issue in New Iberia rather then only negotiate with Sheriff Ackal. I firmly believe that we will continue to have problems with crime in this city unless we can hold the Mayor and the City Council accountable.

    Now, if you telephone the Mayor’s Office or speak with your City Councilman with a law enforcement issue, they refer you to the Sheriff Department. In other words, they have the opportunity to pass the buck. "

    Ah now your not thinking wrote on Jan 3, 2009 7:56 PM:

    " First you have to provide an entirely new fleet and equip them with adequate radios, lights, cages, etc. You then have to totally outfit your new department with all office equipment, uniforms, office furniture, office space, weapons, duty belts, all accessories etc. You then have to make your salaries comparably to not only IPSO but with Lafayette P.D. and Lafayette SO. I'm thinking when its all said and done (with no corners cut) your looking at least ten million plus. "

    Attorney at Law wrote on Jan 3, 2009 4:15 PM:

    " No matter how they would attempt to bring back a functioning NIPD, the biggest hurdle would be Civil Service.
    Yes, the same Civil Service laws that helped to protect the few bad apples that led to the PD untimely demise.
    I could be mistaken, but the only way around Civil Service is to change the City Charter. Which would probably involve the City Council, opening another can of worms.
    It's not like trying to revive a High School football team after not having one.
    Going 0-20 in football for 2 years can't be compared to 0-20 in Law Enforcement w/crime. "

    My 2 cents wrote on Jan 3, 2009 9:21 AM:

    " Sheriff Ackal has borrowed $4 million to purchase equipment for his Department. Now, he is asking the City for an increase to pay off his loan. Why doesn’t the City borrow $4 million to purchase equipment for their Police Department?

    As for recruiting, I would be willing to bet that if Mayor Curry would start accepting applications for the New Iberia Police Department, Sheriff Ackal would lose more than 50% of his commissioned Deputies.

    If this happened, the Mayor and City Council could then control spending for law enforcement services. "

    Joseph wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:04 PM:

    " It would cost approximately $7million in the first year and about $4-5 million a year afterwards. However, the city (mayor) would have more control over law enforcement issues. I think that the Chief should be elected "

    me wrote on Jan 1, 2009 1:15 PM:

    " OK Bill who do you have in mind? And Bill who made you the Pope of this dump allowing you to name the Chief of Police should it ever come about? "

    Old Time Cop wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:17 PM:

    " The cost of law enforcement has risen dramaticly and it has become increasingly dificult to find persons willing to do the job for the salary offered. Agencies have become competitive in thier pay to recruit men and women. The costs today compared to 4 years ago is much higher. From what I understand the only way to go in New Iberia is to stay with the sheriff's office due to the cost of recruiting and equiping an entirely NEW police department. "

    Copper wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:41 PM:

    " OK, so what is the solution then? No crying, no finger pointing, just state what you think is a real solution to the problem. What will be the best affordable police protection for the citizens of New Iberia? "

    My 2 cents wrote on Dec 31, 2008 9:49 AM:

    " What makes you think that the citizens will not be holding the bag anyhow? Currently, the City is paying the Sheriff $3.6 dollars for law enforcement services. Rumors indicate the Sheriff is asking for an additional $1 million to $2 million dollar increase.

    What makes you think that the Sheriff, who has not showed any fiscal restraints, will not be asking for additional funds next year, the year after, etc? At what point does the City decide to bite the bullet and bring their Police Department back? "

    city guy wrote on Dec 30, 2008 6:11 AM:

    " Fine Bill but who will pay for it? The damage is done and the politicians who created this Frankenstein are gone. We said this back in 2004 but no one listened.Do you have any idea what it costs to raise a police dept. from ground up?The public will be left holding the bag on this one. "

    NI Transplant wrote on Dec 29, 2008 6:17 PM:

    " 1. The NIPD was horrible.
    2. I thought Sheriff Ackal could do it "better and cheaper" than Sid Hebert?
    3. This is the same mayor who needed time to generate "the figures" when the Chamber requested them prior to the NIPD vote, yet was able to state on record what the figures were for the council a week prior.
    4. South Louisiana politics. 'Nuff said. "

    BILL wrote on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 AM:

    " Now is a great time to bring back the NIPD. I do have a Chief of Police in Mind. "

    2 Cents wrote on Dec 27, 2008 8:16 PM:

    " If the sheriff is the sole law enforcement entity, why should the city pay for prisoners the sheriff's office is placing in jail? Why aren't they making the parish pay for parish prisoners? They (Parish prisoners) are not billed for medical expenses, outside of the co-pay that the jail charges, while the city is paying for each prisoner plus the medical costs. "

    BILL wrote on Dec 27, 2008 4:49 PM:

    " You get what you pay for "

    Copper wrote on Dec 26, 2008 7:37 PM:

    " Plain and simple , IT WAS A BAD IDEA !!!! It doesn't work for the money spent. Now they want more, who could not have seen that writing on the wall. "

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