Many people believe that just because a majority of people in a state vote a law into existence, such as a ban on same sex marriage, this automatically makes the law right, and a court should not have the power to overturn the will of the people. On the contrary, the U. S. Constitution, and Bill of Rights, are specifically designed to protect the rights of the minority from the power (and tyranny) of the majority. Think about it, what if the majority of the people in a state voted to (this is just an example) ban all left handed people from driving a car, because they thought it was dangerous and being left handed was “just not natural”. They also considered being left handed a “choice” and therefore all one had to do to get the right to drive back was to start being right handed. Now, the Constitution does not specifically give everyone the right to drive a car, however, this majority vote would clearly be overthrown by a court as being against the spirit of the Constitution and therefore unconstitutional. All laws passed by the people, a city council, state legislature, or even Congress must be held up to the standard of the Constitution, it is the ultimate law of the land. It is the specific job of the courts to interpret these laws and decide if they are constitutional or not.
Many also argue that if gay couples are allowed to marry, it would open the door for people to marry dogs, cars, or even for pedophiles to marry children. This is ridiculous for one reason alone. Marriage is a legal contract, and animals, inanimate objects, and children are not able to enter into a legal contract. On the other hand, two consenting adults of the same sex are.
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Many also give religious reasons to ban same sex marriage. While everyone is entitled to their individual freedom of religion, religious beliefs alone, no matter how strong you feel about them, are not valid reasons that can stand up in a court of law. You simply cannot force your particular religion’s beliefs and rules on everyone else, who may not believe the same. Now, it’s true that there are laws against killing and stealing, which are also banned by the 10 Commandments, however these laws exist not because of their existence in the Bible, but because they infringe upon the rights of others. Consider this, the Bible, in Leviticus, also states that eating shellfish (shrimp) is an abomination (10:11). Shall we pass a law banning the consumption of shrimp, and if so, who is going to explain it to the people of Delcambre? Leviticus also prohibits cutting the hair on the sides of your head or your beard (19:27) as well as prohibiting the eating of pork (11:7).
The Bible gives many prohibitions, rules, and regulations, however, in Matthew 7:12 Jesus gives us what is commonly referred to as the Golden Rule. He said, “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets”. Are we following this rule when we choose to reserve the right of marriage for ourselves and not to those who we believe to be different from us? Believe as you will, but this is the Jesus I choose to believe in. I believe Jesus is Love. Love is ALWAYS good. I do not believe that Jesus would condemn anyone for loving someone else, regardless of their sex. Others would disagree, but that is my Jesus. I could be wrong, but I believe it better to err on the side of love. Either way, each person’s religious beliefs, and what God considers a “sin” should be strictly between that person and God. We should leave our civil laws out of it.
Lastly, let us consider the fact that we are taking away or restricting the rights of two consenting adult citizens of the United States. We are setting a dangerous precedent here. While many don’t have a problem with restricting the rights of gays, we are setting ourselves up for the same to happen to us one day. Once you open the door to taking away or restricting the rights of certain citizens, simply because they seem different to you, where does that end? While these examples may sound silly now, what would stop certain rights from being taken away from left-handed people, or people who choose not to eat meat, or people who do not make the sign of the cross when they pass a church, or for that matter, those who DO make the sign of the cross? Once we begin taking away the rights of others, we open ourselves up to having rights taken away from us one day. I believe Thomas Paine, U.S. patriot and author of Common Sense, which helped spark the start of the American Revolution, said it best when he said, “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself”. You may think I am completely wrong here, and that is your right to believe so and to say so. That right guaranteed to us by the Constitution, and the blood of soldiers who have defended it, throughout history, including the thousands of gays currently defending OUR rights in the U.S. armed forces today. I thank them, and all veterans, for the right to print this letter. Thank you.


Comments
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:06 PM:
(More study needed)"They also concluded that mental health professionals who work with Gay,Lesbians,and bi-sexuals to be aware that they have a heightened risk of psychological, physical, and sexual victimization.
So the jury is still out conclusively, but there does seem to be a higher prevalence of childhood abuse among homosexuals and bisexuals.In addition this is not to say that all bisexuals & homosexuals are victims of abuse,some are indeed born that way. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:04 PM:
2005." Victimization Over the Life Span: A Comparison of Lesbian,Gay,
Bisexual,&Heterosexual Siblings"
The purpose of this study was to investigate the prevalence of self-reported psychological,physical, and sexual abuse in childhood and adulthood in a large,national sample of lesbians, gay men, and bisexual women and men.The study concluded that heterosexual men(12.8%) reported a relatively lower rate of childhood sexual abuse than bisexual men(44.1%)&gay men (31.8%).The percentages of women of all sexual orientations were comprable to that of bisexual & homosexual-males. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:13 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:24 AM:
P.L. wrote on Jan 3, 2009 6:03 PM:
P.L. wrote on Jan 3, 2009 8:58 AM:
P.S. Even for arguments sake with "DaBerry", I don't see how you could compare a proven medical disorder (epilepsy) to demonic possession. "
separker02 wrote on Jan 2, 2009 5:01 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:17 AM:
reported higher levels of psychological, physical, and sexual violence
in both childhood and adulthood. A particularly dramatic difference emerged when overall lifetime victimization was compared across sexual orientation.In other words, the number of abused homosexuals and bisexuals are greater than that of heterosexuals.I am far from confused.Nor am I perverting scripture. I think that Matt:19:12 proves Jesus to be all knowing & on a scientific level way ahead of his time. "
Believer wrote on Dec 30, 2008 6:44 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 30, 2008 8:52 AM:
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Believer wrote on Dec 28, 2008 10:20 PM:
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Independent wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:06 AM:
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Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 23, 2008 4:47 PM:
In fact there is direct evidence that with each consecutive pregnancy, homosexuality becomes more prevalent(akin to Rh incompatibility)There is no harm-when-the-truth-is-told.So-do-you-also-believe-epilepsy-to-be-caused-by-demonic-possesion? "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 23, 2008 4:26 PM:
To clarify the different Bible versions: We as christians disagree on some/many points. Given the fact that there are approximately 1,000 Christian faith groups in the U.S. and Canada alone,disagreements on biblical interpretation are bound to occur. I respect your opinion as a christian. Please respect the fact that not all christians will agree with you. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 23, 2008 4:25 PM:
Da Berry wrote on Dec 23, 2008 8:52 AM:
Believer wrote on Dec 23, 2008 8:46 AM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 22, 2008 6:24 PM:
In the past it was true that the religions you listed were did not accept homosexuals.However in todays societies, many of these different religions are now accepting of them.(note, I said some not all) Acceptance in general depends on where one lives.Of all the religions you listed,the largest in this area, and the ones who have responded have been Christian.My own christianity has been attacked,&though I disagree with the person,I firmly believe that person a right to practice their freedom of speech.If one wants to play on the forum one has to expect these things. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 22, 2008 5:58 PM:
On an International level Gay marriages are recognized in the following countries:
Netherlands,Belgium,Spain,Canada, South Africa Norway, & Napal.Denmark permits registered partnerships (synonymous with civil unions)for same sex couples.Gays and lesbians are granted all the same rights as marriage.Sweden has granted civil unions and adoption rights since 1995, making it the third country to grant this right. The Church of Sweden(Lutheran-branch-of-Christianity)was recently allowed to bless the unions of same-sex couples.Iceland legalized civil unions in 1996.In 2006,gay couples were given the same adoption and co-parenting rights as heterosexual couples. The vote was unopposed in Icelandic Parliament. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 22, 2008 5:37 PM:
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Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 21, 2008 1:36 PM:
To Reply wrote on Dec 21, 2008 8:53 AM:
This is one thing I've noticed about the people here is that some of you argue saying the same thing just in a different way. Take your time to think about what you're reading. Saying it different from your words doesn't mean it's wrong. I have an aunt that will make quotes of the same thing a good 20 different ways to say the same thing, I'm respectfully patient with her, with you...? "
Reply wrote on Dec 20, 2008 3:56 PM:
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To Independent wrote on Dec 19, 2008 6:40 PM:
To Kim Independent wrote on Dec 19, 2008 6:35 PM:
Independent wrote on Dec 19, 2008 7:58 AM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 19, 2008 1:35 AM:
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Rationalizer wrote on Dec 18, 2008 11:22 PM:
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Frank wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:47 PM:
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Believer wrote on Dec 17, 2008 12:58 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:56 AM:
{This quote is very appropriate for this topic}
All, too,will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect,and to violate would be oppression.
Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4,1801 "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:54 AM:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:54 AM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:53 AM:
Rationalizer wrote on Dec 16, 2008 11:34 PM:
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lesbian wrote on Dec 15, 2008 6:53 PM:
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MikMak Girl wrote on Dec 15, 2008 3:18 PM:
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To Independent aka Twister wrote on Dec 15, 2008 9:50 AM:
Max wrote on Dec 14, 2008 1:36 PM:
To Independent wrote on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 AM:
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Independent wrote on Dec 14, 2008 9:58 AM:
tater wrote on Dec 14, 2008 8:54 AM:
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Bobby G wrote on Dec 13, 2008 11:59 AM:
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lesbian wrote on Dec 13, 2008 12:13 AM:
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Independent wrote on Dec 12, 2008 6:37 AM:
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Bobby G wrote on Dec 11, 2008 7:24 PM:
To Frank wrote on Dec 11, 2008 6:02 PM:
Frank wrote on Dec 11, 2008 5:12 PM:
Frank wrote on Dec 11, 2008 5:01 PM:
Why doesn't anybody cry out about this so called separation of church and state when black preachers are spouting political messages from their pulpits? Why isn't the gay community protesting the black churches? They voted 80% against gay marriage. "
Independent wrote on Dec 7, 2008 9:20 AM:
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To Independent wrote on Dec 6, 2008 6:11 PM:
Curious wrote on Dec 6, 2008 2:40 PM:
Willie wrote on Dec 5, 2008 11:15 AM:
Independent wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:24 PM:
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Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:05 PM:
Tolerance is not when someone agrees with you.It's having the ability of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.One doesn't have to agree or practice with them.One only has to tolerate to-be-tolerant. "
what rights wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:17 AM:
Frank wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:55 PM:
Lastly, I will conclude this long rambling by encouraging all of you to read "Lord save us from your followers" by Dan-Merchant-it-is-very-enlightening "
Frank wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:47 PM:
Frank wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:39 PM:
Actually yes, I have heard of "Separation of Church and State" however, I can't seem to find it anywhere in our Constitution. Tell me, which article is it in? Which Amendment is it which limits our ability as American citizens to practice our faith? While we're at it, why do we not hear anything about Separation of Church and State when Father Phlager, and Reverend Wright are putting out political speeches from the pulpit? Also, there was a large amount of women as well as the black community who voted against allowing Gay Marriage. CONTINUED "
Max wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:24 PM:
We all judge continued wrote on Dec 3, 2008 4:24 PM:
We all judge wrote on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM:
Darrell Brookes wrote on Dec 3, 2008 2:33 PM:
Deborah C. White wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:13 AM:
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Mike wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:58 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:21 PM:
Alex wrote on Dec 2, 2008 3:40 PM:
Sorry, but I was not referring to your post. Not at all in fact. I have and you probably have seen all the post by Kimbro...aka kim on this forum. This is who I was referring to. This person appears to be smart with all the researching they do but it is always a copy and paste job. Would be nice to see some of their own words and thoughts for a change. "
Joe wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:01 PM:
Independent wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:51 AM:
To: Mr No Mo, please provide a direct quote from the Constitution that specifically gives heterosexuals the right to marry. You won't find one, therefore why do you have the legal right to marry who you choose? "
No Mo Homos wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:50 AM:
Independent wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:49 AM:
Alex wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:44 AM:
Thank You wrote on Dec 2, 2008 5:58 AM:
Separation of church and state - ever heard of that? Religion should have no bearing on the laws of our land. "
To Thank You wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:44 PM:
Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 1, 2008 8:26 PM:
Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry
~Thomas Jefferson
If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution.
~Abraham Lincoln
Constitutional rights may not be infringed simply because the majority of the people choose that they be.
~Supreme Court of the United States "
Independent wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:52 PM:
Passer By wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:43 PM:
To Just say No wrote on Dec 1, 2008 2:24 PM:
aint buying it... wrote on Dec 1, 2008 2:14 PM:
Just Say No wrote on Dec 1, 2008 11:24 AM:
Thank You wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:53 AM:
Too many try to force THEIR God and THEIR religions on others. I believe in God, but MY God would never discriminate against those who are different from me.
I think the bottom line is that people are afraid of gay people - like "the gay" will contaminate them somehow, which is ridiculous, of course.
Live and let live. You have your own souls to worry about.... "