THE BIG QUESTION

By Wondering
Published/Last Modified on Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:29 PM CST

Since President-elect Obama is such a strong advocate for abortion, the big question is, "Would he rather have had his mother abort him?" Wasn't she in the typical situation....a young unmarried woman, with no visible means of support, etc.... He had to be raised by his maternal grandmother. Had his mother chosen the path Barrack advocates, he would not have been elected president or senator or anything. HE WOULD NOT BE HERE!!!!!!

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Justice for ALL wrote on Dec 22, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Why do you (The Daily Iberian) keep this story open for comments (first comment Nov17 and last comment Dec 8th) and remove more popular commented stories like "DNA RESULTS ARE IN".
Just doesnt make sense to me since the later story had over 65 comment when you pulled it. "

Deborah C. White wrote on Dec 8, 2008 12:15 PM:

" Kimbro,
I could not agree with you more pretaining to what you stated in your Dec.7th, 2:38 post. This is only my opinion and I feel it is called "Dictatorship." Way too much government involved in the rights of what citizens should or should not be entitled to. Our rights are stripped away from us everyday. The question is, "When will this stop?' I guess none of us are able to answer that question. I certainly agree with you on this particular issue. Good Day to you. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 7, 2008 2:38 PM:

" Next on the ticket would be medicare.Too many baby boomers.The government now decides to squash un-necessary spending.They rule that expenses to un-naturally extend life through heart operations,medication etc. are too costly.Such treatment will now be denied to those over 60.After all, its God's will to become old & die.The new rule of thought is that it's wrong to prolong life because it isn't what God's plan intended.Ridiculous right? This is perhaps the new Pandora's box of the 21st century. We must uphold our constitutional right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth(9thalso) Amendment.Its effect is far-more-reaching-than-one-can-fathom. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 7, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Entertained,we will never agree on this subject.You focus on one area concerning Roe v.Wade (abortion)but I see a bigger picture.The overturning of RVW,would basically give the government control over all of our bodies.(men included)Hypothetically, RvW is overturned.Overpopulation has our nation in crisis.Government forced to care for onslaught of unwanted children.The governments solution,effective birth control.A jury type selection is used to force hystorectomies of women,&castraton of men.America becomes the new China,one child limit per family,abortions are now manditory(ironic) for pregnant women with one existing child.Pro-choice is no more.....we have become the sad lost nation of No-choice.What happens next? "

Entertained wrote on Dec 7, 2008 8:07 AM:

" To Kim;( Cont) chance I get. No helmet manufacturer can provide insurance on their "buckets." They restrict your vision,hearing,aid in the snapping of the neck.It's a false sence of security. Alertness , staying sober,and having experience and watching the idiots trying to run you off the rode are your greatess defence. We should have the choice after the age of 25 in addittion to 5years experience of riding time. Yet it's ok for a teenage girl without parental or consent to murder her child. Let this sink in: HE choses the time,the place.Don't tell ME how to LIVE or//RIDE//while//you//nonchalantly//murder//babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

To Kim wrote on Dec 7, 2008 7:50 AM:

" THis forum topic is on the debate of life and death.( ABOTION) yes. But in trying to bring to light the absurd comfort feeling some pro-choice people use. That it's their right,their choice. And you helped to prove my point greatly. You want to tell other people when or if to where a helmet.Yet you don't want me to stop a woman from murdering a child.Another double standard.To wear or not wear one is not a death sentence.Your choice is automatic death. I've rode over 30 years across 42 states and Canada. I take off my helmet every (Cont) "

Entertained wrote on Dec 7, 2008 7:37 AM:

" To Ms White: This is your attempt to chastise me for comments on your newsless story of late. Yes, I mispelled a word. So what. That destroys ones credibility ? No, I don't think so. Every once in a while a few posters attack the spelling of a word ,maybe just one letter off and the likes of you attack the writer visiously. But shy away from the issue. As I 've stated in the past I don't use spell check like you.One word in the last 1000 ,not bad. At least my comments make sence. Ramble on ,girl. Spelling//proficiently//does//not//make//one//educated//You're//saying//without//spellcheck//you'ld//look//dumb//I//judgie//by//content//of//which//your//pos/t/are//empty. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Dec 4, 2008 2:51 PM:

" Entertained, when did this become a debate on the helmet law? I can't believe it but we agree on the fact that helmets are about money.Personally I want motorcycle riders to wear helmets.The helmets themselves do not prevent accidents,however when one occurs it indeed affects me.It may be the riders body, but an injury to him is paid by our society by way of taxes, increased insurance rates, and in the end health care costs which affects all of us.By the way one can be pro-choice, and not be pro-abortion.The two are not necessarily synonymous. "

Deborah C. White wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:11 PM:

" Entertained,
You are so great at putting people down on here why don't you go get educated. It is "helmet not "helmit" as you wrote. You should learn proper spelling. This is not a typo as the i and the e are very far apart on a keyboard. It is called not knowing better. I hate when people critize for spelling errors but this is not an error. "

Entertained wrote on Dec 3, 2008 12:18 PM:

" To Kim: No times were different back then . No Homo's running around parading their sickness in the open. You've stated previously that you don't want to infringe on their (gag) rights, just in case they come after yours. Will you help in defeating the Helmit law. More babies are aborted in one day in La. than cyclist killed in a year. You want to save lives, ban abortion. Helmits are about money, Abortion is about murder. Plain and simple. Babies don't have a say. Adult motorcyclist should be able to decide, it's THEIR body , not a BABIES life "

Cajunator wrote on Dec 1, 2008 5:00 PM:

" Ok 4spot, thanks for setting the record straight. That makes me feel a lot better about his stance on abortion, the Second Amendment, taxes, foreign policy, secure borders, terrorism, our military, and the free market. I'm glad you took the time to clear that up. Now where do I get my Obama bumper sticker? "

To 4cspot wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:53 PM:

" Incredible, how one makes broad generalized statements based on nothing more than the observations of their limited environment.....Wait a minute.....ISN'T THAT WHAT RACISTS DO? In my own limited environment, I have in fact seen members of my own race engage in the stereotypical behavior that plagues the entire ethnic group. But instead of making excuses for the behavior of these individuals, I strive even harder not to live up to the stereotype, because I refuse to prove them right.Just because someone disagrees with Mr. Obama, doesn't mean they are a racist.By the way, speaking of breaking-free-of-stereotypes,judging-by-his-tax-return,it's-probably-safe-to-say-that-Obama-doesn't-eat-much-fried-chicken-or-watermelon.But-it's-also-safe-to-assume-his-tax-hikes-will-raise-the-price-of-chicken-and-watermelon-to-the-point-where-this-stereotype-will-then-be-considered-a-status-symbol. "

4cspot wrote on Nov 30, 2008 12:54 PM:

" Whoever the genius who wrote the “BIG QUESTION” about PRESIDENT OBAMA'S mother being unwed when she became pregnant with him is 'WRONG" his mother was married to Obama's father Mr. Barrack Obama Sr. she later became single after the birth of PRESIDENT OBAMA “GENIUS . I just love reading and listening to all these dumb racist speak because they are hilarious "

Moral Relativism wrote on Nov 29, 2008 5:07 PM:

" Kimbro, your comments regarding the Founding Fathers are misleading and obviously influenced by revisionist history of the last 40 years.

Furthermore, your recent comments reek of Moral Relativism while claiming Christianity. The two are completely incompatible. Jesus did NOT promote a "live and let live" philosophy; rather, He clearly confronted sin and taught the proper way to do so. It is not my place to force anyone to believe the tenets of Christianity and the Bible. It IS my place to confront sin in love and truth to show the sinner the way home. "

life wrote on Nov 28, 2008 1:36 PM:

" I lost a baby about 18 years ago and if The Doctor had ask me if I wanted him to save me or the Baby I would have said save the baby ! because I saw life the baby was just begining life! so whoever thinks about killing a baby should be shoot! "

Alex wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:39 AM:

" I am pro life so I could not support Obama. As a nation we have to hope for the best and see what will happen to our country. We are in a crisis and I don't think trying to get out of this mess will be an easy job for anyone that would have been elected. If he just so happens to do great things it remains to be seen and I will be the first to say....good job Mr. President. "

Done Deal wrote on Nov 26, 2008 12:46 AM:

" Obama is now bound by his own truths. For the next four years he will be put to the test on all the BS he's spewed up to his election. There's no hiding the fact he's a proponent of removing children from a woman's womb. Here's the rub though. Even though he has no problem with women killing their fetus' he still looks like and is a genius compared to what George Bush has put us through. The American people are easy led. Barrack will soon have us eating out the palm of his-hand-and-leading-us-to-who-knows-where. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM:

" If comments on Gay Marriage forum offended the christians who read it, perhaps they saw my point.It was aimed at showing the absurdity in the way they treat others who are different and yet just like themselves.sinners.(Myself included) I feel many christians just don't realize, what they are doing so I felt a need to express my opinion.(Also legal in this country)In truth many people are turning away from God &Christ,in part because of the way so called christians treat others.You're right we can't have it both ways but for more than one reason. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM:

" As a tolerant christian, I don't feel my religious beliefs should govern someone that is not christian.I also feel that if you don't like the idea of someone marrying someone of the same sex, then Entertained you should not marry someone that is the same sex.If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have an abortion.By the way, I realize some people don't know this, but they're christian churches that accept gays in their congregations.I also believe if you feel you need to get divorced, who am I to deny you. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM:

" Entertained, It was a different time when Washington lived, and it was his pastor that gave him grief not me.This piece of history points out what hutzpa he had, or perhaps disregard for religion in general.(Maybe Martha made him attend services)As for my statement concerning our founding fathers and where they stood were strictly meant as historical fact not a show of intolerance.It is simply the way it was back then.I don't shout that I am christian nor have I changed my stance regarding the constitutional right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Ammendment. "

Entertained wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:18 PM:

" To Kim: What difference does it make to stand ,kneel ,or sit down while particapating in their respective church services. Where's that "tolerance" of yours? How can you continue to shout how "Christian" you proclaim to be ,cutting down people who don't respect our Savior" and his teachings and be pro GAY and pro ABORTION? Can't have it both ways. When did Jesus preach about the murder of babies? We are forgiven for our sins if we are truly sorry. He gives you no warning of the time or place when he calls you. When will you ask for forgivness? "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:41 PM:

" The history of Jefferson is the most interesting to me.Jefferson was an extremely tolerant man.He certainly stood up for the right of every person to worship God according to their own conscience.While President, Jefferson was accused of being a non-believer and an atheist.Thomas Jefferson definitely was a "religious man," though such a conclusion might depend on how one defines religious man.He definitely believed in God,& in an afterlife.He believed that Jesus was the greatest moral philosopher that ever lived. He did not believe that Jesus was a God,nor did he believe in the miracles recorded in
the New Testament. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:32 PM:

" AC,I don't need anymore history lessons.I was showing that some of the key players in the founding of our nation questioned organized religion(or disreguarded parts thereof),by there actions and their writings.Where they did for the most part believe in God, they did not want the organized religion be the motivating force in the design of our law.To do this it was imperative to assure that America would have no 'National religion" there by preserving our rights to observe our religion of choice or to have no religion at all.This premise gave birth to part of our first ammendment. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:47 PM:

" Wondering,
Derelict? I have never been abandoned,I am not run down, nor have I ever been neglectful of any duty or obligation.I am neither an atheist or a agnostic. I am certainly not a heck fire & brimstone rhetoric type christian, but I am a christian.I disagree with many christian people on this forum that take the point of chastiser, for It sours the true meaning of Christianity and makes a mockery out of our Savior and his teachings.On that note, I like a true christian will forgive you from my heart. "

AC wrote on Nov 20, 2008 1:44 PM:

" I believe you should go back to history class.....The founding fathers were (for the most part) Christians. They did not think that the country shouldn’t be guided by God. They didn’t want the church to be one with the state as it was in England. They also wanted everyone to be free to practice whatever religion that they chose. Separation of church and state was meant to protect the people from unfair "donations" to the church that would be forced upon them by the government’s army. "

Obama Supporter wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:33 PM:

" He'd probably wish the same Don, but he does have God in his heart. The comments says a great deal about you. "

Don P wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:18 AM:

" I wish Obama wasn't here and never was. "

Wondering wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:40 AM:

" To Kimbo aka Kim and all of you other liberal athaists and abortionists: I wonder if you will be thinking about us when the flames are licking your backsides after you die. As Americans you can be as derilict as you want to be, but after this life, it is an entirely different situation! You can certainly poo-poo the idea, but you cannot avoid the truth. God have mercy on your souls. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:46 AM:

" The reason the phrase "Under God" became popular was because Abraham Lincoln used it in his Gettysburg Address. This is probably one of the reasons many Americans believe ours is a nation founded under God. Another reason is because of the edited version of the Pledge of Allegence.The words "under God" were added in 1954 by then President Dwight D. Eisenhower.The year before he proclaimed the 4th of July as a day of “penance and prayer.” Ironically, on that day he fished in the morning, golfed in the afternoon and played bridge in the evening. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:42 AM:

" The Founding Fathers, from the outset believed that" Religion" should not be the motivating force of the law. Many of the founding fathers were actually deists.The Constitution is the foundation of our Republic, not the Bible. God is in fact only mentioned once in this document in the Signatory section where it is dated and says "Seventeenth Day of September in the year of our lord, one thousand seven hundred eight seven.(As was the custom of writing dates back then) Religion is mentioned 3 times, but not in terms of christianity. "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:38 AM:

" Benjamin Franklin was given some books written to refute deism,"the deists’ arguments "he wrote," appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough deist.”(The belief,based solely on reason,in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it,assuming no control over life,exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation)Revelation “had indeed no weight with me.” He believed in a creator and the immortality of the soul, but considered these “the essentials of every religion.” "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:37 AM:

" Thomas Jefferson,writing as a laconic utilitarian(someone that believes in the ethics doctrine that the right thing to do is that which brings about the greatest good for the greatest number)urged his nephew to inquire into the truthfullness of Christianity without fear of consequences: “If it ends in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comforts and pleasantness you feel in its exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you.”
You should also look up Jefferson's Wall of Seperation letter
http://www.constitution.org/tj/sep_church_state.htm "

Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:35 AM:

" It seems some of us don't know our founding fathers very well.Has anyone ever heard of George Washington's famous gift of silence? He mainly employed it regarding religion. But his behavior spoke volumes. He would not kneel to pray, and when his pastor rebuked him for setting a bad example by leaving services before communion, Washington mended his ways in his austere manner: he stayed away from church on communion Sundays. He acknowledged Christianity’s “benign influence” on society.In the end, no ministers were present and no prayers were uttered as he died a Stoic’s death. "

To xxx wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:12 PM:

" You are wrong. Obama IS an advocate of abortion because he stated in public that if one of his daughters made a "mistake," he would not want them to be burdened with that mistake. He was talking about abortion because I SAW that clip of him addressing this to his audience. So, get your facts straight!! "

Observer wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:16 AM:

" Obama does not want to uphold the Constitution. He wants to CHANGE the Constitution. That is why he has sworn to have a "litmus test" for all federal judges and justices to the Supereme Court he will appoint. "

Think it over wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:54 PM:

" Ok so Obama wants to "UPHOLD" the Constitution. Wasn't the Constitution written by men who thought of life as a gift. Obama wants to take God out of our schools. Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson ect. They all founded this country under God. Since when did America become home of the Atheist? What makes any of us think we have a right to decide who lives and dies? Our children are gifts. Abortion is not only murder but its murder of your own flesh and blood. Don't we execut people who do such things? Its not the baby's fault! "

Knows Better wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM:

" You three, who responded first, should be the ones to get your facts straight. Try as you will to revise history, the truth will win out. By the way, where is Obama's birth certificate????? "

Frank wrote on Nov 17, 2008 6:03 PM:

" Great point wondering! Obama IS for abortion. He has a long record of voting FOR abortion. He voted AGAINST the judicial appointments of conservative judges. He even authored and co-sponsored a bill in Illinois which allowed "doctors" to kill babies which were meant to be aborted but were born alive. It's not fear mongering, it's the facts. However, we would never know any of this because the liberal media never did ask him anything about it. He couldn't deny it because it is his vote of record. "

Where do you get this stuff wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:31 PM:

" Obama's Mother and Father were married at the time of his birth. His parents met and married when they were students at the University of Hawaii. His mother went on to earn an advance degree in social anthropology and worked for the US embasy in Indonesia. He and his Mother decided that it would be best for him to return to Hawaii to be educated in an American high school. That's why he lived with his Grandparents. His Mother lived most of her life overseas working with the disadvantaged and poor to better their lives. "

xxx contd wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:01 PM:

" While you and all your religious fanatics are throwing stones, why don't you throw stones at the current president who's been in office for 8 yrs., appointed 2 conservative supreme court justices, AND has done NOTHING to change Roe vs. Wade. If anyone is an advocator, it is the REPUBLICAN party. "

xxx wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:58 AM:

" If you're going to argue a position against someone, at least get your facts right. Obama is not an advocate of abortion. He is for whatever the constitution supports, which at the present time is Roe vs. Wade. As President you must take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the US. Obama has openly admitted he is against abortion, except for saving the life of the mother. That in essence does not label him an advocator of abortion. The fear mongoring should now stop since the elction is over. "

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