Birth Certificate


Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:59 PM CST

Just MY Opinion

So I can prove that I am a U.S. citizen,,,,, Can the President do the same????

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    AC wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:49 AM:

    " We will see on dec 5th when the US supreme court meets to decide.... I just hope there is some national news coverage. Esp since none was done before the election. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 21, 2008 12:57 PM:

    " Okay AC thats enough be nice & stop casting dispersians at Mg. (by the way still wrong on the grounds of soil)
    AC you may have your wish, because it seems that someone that may have true standing has joined in Alan Keyes and other members of the party have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento to stop the state from giving its electoral votes to President-elect Barack Obama until documentary evidence is provided to prove Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States.This is the case that you were hoping for.Filed on 11/12/08 "

    AC wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:30 AM:

    " I hope you are right "Look" I havent heard anything about that. I sure do hope you are right. "

    Look... wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:09 PM:

    " Justice Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court has accepted the case and there will be a meeting of all Justices on December 5th to discuss the citizenship of Obama. Remember the elctorial college vote does not until a later date. Obama is not president elect if the Electorial College votes Mccain after the Supreme Court rules him ineligable to be president of the USA becuause of his citizenship. Let's wait and see what the Supreme Court decides what to do. Remember it's all about the electorial votes and they are not bound by the popular vote. "

    AC wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:07 PM:

    " MG....Sorry to burst your bubble,you got both of your statements a little mixed up. McCain was not born in the Panama Canal.Hopefully no one ever has been born in the canal.He was born in the Panama Canal Zone.The land on which he was born was considered US soil. Second, it was GORE taking BUSH to court in 2000. GORE was trying to steal the election from BUSH. MG...You really need to get you some edumacation because you truly do not know anything about the history of this country.You shouldn’t even be a citizen….You’re a pathetic American. "

    amen wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:28 AM:

    " When will he be kick out! "

    Lets Move Forward wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:16 PM:

    " To all who are upset and feel they've been cheated or betrayed, there is a solution. You take the ride and change it in four years or, keep it a smooth ride by cooperating instead of "figiting" in the back seat while crying, "Are we there yet?", or move back to the motherland, fatherland or where ever it is you or your descendants may have come from and try to find Shangri-la there. It's too late to whine and complain. Let's try to make the best of it. Besides, your prejudices are showing for all to see. "

    Still going wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:48 AM:

    " For those that thought this might be over. It isn't. Obama and the DNC must file their paperwork on Dec 1st. Obamacrimes.com is still going strong. "

    To mg wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:14 AM:

    " The only thing I have to say to someone like you is first before I even listen to your rubbish, learn how to speak English, not the gibberish that you're putting in here. Then maybe we can talk about if Obama legitimately won or won be default. AND it's called "debate". There are a lot of issues on both sides, I already know the side you'd take. "

    mg wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:48 AM:

    " At least OBAMA actually won the election. Bush had to go to court to steal the 2000 election. So quit your whining'. "

    mg wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:43 AM:

    " You make a stick about Obama when it was McInsane who was born out of the country. He's the one born in the Panama Canal. Another cause of Retardicans trying to twist the issue around.. Get over it AC. I've got one word for you OBAMA... If you don't like it them pack your crap in a U-haul and head for the border. Otherwise quit your crying. We've been dealing with worse(G.W. Bush) for the last 8 yrs and you don't see us crying. Sour Grapes "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 16, 2008 6:18 PM:

    " AC part of my comment disappeared-
    STANDING-The legal right to initiate a lawsuit.A judge’s attitude toward the factual foundation of a plaintiff’s claims is an essential factor in understanding just who indeed has standing to sue. The question running to the heart of the standing doctrine is whether or not the plaintiff indeed has a personal stake in the outcome of the otherwise matter being adjudicated.A plaintiff wishing to have standing to sue must show(1)a particularized injury-in-fact(2)evidence showing that that the party being sued actually caused the plaintiff’s particularized injury-in-fact,and(3)that adjudication of the the matter would actually provide redress. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:35 PM:

    " You know AC,I was thinking about this whole issue.I am certain it will eventually go to SCOTUS.(if it hasn't already). Perhaps, the only people who would have standing in such a case as Berg's would be someone who actually ran against Obama.They could show personal injury,thus having legitimate standing.I doubt H.Clinton would do it because she would not go against her politcal party,nor would anyone else in the group.McCain,probably would not because he has his own personal issues concerning this topic. I doubt it would work.Probably the only venue ordinary citizens have is to collectively write their congressman. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:53 PM:

    " The Judge in Berg's Philidelphia case, U.S.District Judge R. Barclay Surrick"ruled"that Berg had no standing .This was done after Obama &the DNC had asked the judge to dismiss Bergs case on Sept.24,2008.Stating in the request,"Berg's claims were "ridiculous&patently false",that Berg had no standing to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself. "

    AC wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:17 PM:

    " Where does it say that a US Citizen does not have a standing on this issue? Last time I checked Congress represents the people. When congress is unable to represent the people, then the people may represent themselves. In this case apparently congress was not representing this man nor the hundreds of thousands of people who don’t believe he should be allowed to be president because of the citizenship issue. Therefore why can’t a citizen ask for proof? Where does it say that? Furthermore, shouldn’t it be mandatory that if asked for proof the candidate should furnish the proof? "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:21 AM:

    " The Plantiff "Berg" has the burden of proof.The reason the case was dismissed was the fact that "Berg" lacked standing.A plaintiff wishing to have standing to sue must show(1)a particularized injury-in-fact,(2)evidence showing that that the party being sued actually caused the plaintiff’s particularized injury-in-fact,and(3)that adjudication of the matter would actually provide redress.So,who does have standing?That is something that Congress would have to pursue.If, through the political process,Congress determines that citizens,voters,or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency,then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time,voters do not have standing. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:21 AM:

    " AC so basically you did not read the link or at least not in its entirety. I get that you feel strongly about the case against Obama.However you put far too much on the merit of a man you obviously have no knowledge of.What about the case he(Berg) had against Bush & Cheney, and the U.S,along with Cabinet members & whole host of others?Basically in that suit Berg blamed the U.S. government for actually blowing up the world trade center without any evidence to support it. That was crazy & a waste of tax payers money! "

    AC wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:11 AM:

    " That source is pointless to even read. I can make a website and put whatever I want on it, it doesn’t make it credible. Also just because he is being recommended for discipline, doesn’t mean he will even have a hearing. The judge would have reported him to the Bar if he thought it was a crazy motion, In fact he didn’t even throw it out based on validity he threw it out based on the fact that the damages to one person were not great enough to justify the trial.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 PM:

    " AC, please take the time to read about Philip J. Berg .All this nonsense over someone that is probably not dealing with a full deck.
    http://www.pr-inside.com/anti-obama-attorney-philip-j-berg-faces-r912739.htm "

    AC wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:57 PM:

    " And that case was not thrown out because it was not a legitimate argument. It was thrown out because that judge decided the damages that would be accrued by one person were not great enough for the case to be allowed forward. Which was a total cop out on that judge’s part. "

    AC wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:54 PM:

    " Thats the sad part Charlie.... He wasnt He was just able to run because the Media kept everything quiet. HE WAS IN COURT FIGHTING to NOT have to prove he was a citizen. Can someone please explain that to me? Why would he fight. As for all of your comments Kim, I really dont know what to tell you, I am not a lawyer so I dont know international law. The Lawyer who filed the suit against Obama prob does know more than you, and he was arguing that Obama was not a citizen. "

    Charlie W. wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:29 PM:

    " Oh,my. get over youself AC. Obama has been elected the 44th president of the United Sates of America. You can't change that. You think very little of this great country if you really think Obama was not checked out before running for the highest office in the land. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:45 AM:

    " If Obama also had the citizenship of his stepfather, there would have been no need for him to become naturalized as an Indonesian citizen or swear allegiance to Indonesia, assuming the adoption laws of Indonesia at that time allows the transmission of Indonesian citizenship to adopted stepchildren.Obama was a minor when he lived in Indonesia and as a minor he did not have the legal capacity to renounce his U.S. citizenship. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:44 AM:

    " For Obama to lose his U.S.citizenship,he would have to do one of the following:
    • Become naturalized in another country
    • Swear an oath of allegiance to another country •Serve in the armed forces of a nation at war with the U.S., or if you are an officer in that force •Work for the government of another nation if doing so requires that you become naturalized or that you swear an oath of allegiance
    •Formally renounce citizenship at a U.S. consular office •Formally renounce citizenship to the U.S. Attorney General
    • Be convicted of committing treason "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:41 AM:

    " Lets see......when I was born the newspaper didn't say I wasn't born in Kenya.....Good God does that mean I was?Come on AC that is just silly.Under Indonesian law in force at the time that Obama was in Indonesia,Barak was considered an Indonesian citizen by virtue of having an Indonesian stepfather.This would explain why he can state in his Indonesian school records that he is an Indonesian citizen yet remain a U.S. citizen.This may surprise you, but the U.S. does not have any law prohibiting U.S. citizens from also being citizens of other countries. Many natural born Americans have dual-citizenship. "

    AC wrote on Nov 10, 2008 4:10 PM:

    " Thanks for the link,but where does that say he wasn’t born in Kenya?It just says two people who live at an address had a son.I didn’t say they moved to Kenya,I said he was born in Kenya.They did return to Hawaii shortly after his birth.More Importantly what about the issue of him renouncing his citizenship when he attended school in Indonesia?At that time,he had to be a citizen to go to school.There are pictures of him in school.Then when he came back he would have to be naturalized(cant be president).If he didn’t do that,He isn’t even a citizen(cant be president). "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:10 AM:

    " AC why do you fight it? The state of Hawaii has declared it valid. Are you that much of a conspiracist? Sometimes in life one must just accept things that one can not change. Here is your requested link:

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

    Only one shows date of printing. "

    AC wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:29 AM:

    " Do you have the two papers,FULL PAGE so we can see the date at the top, not just a snipping from it showing that article?That is hardly proof though, he could have been born in Kenya,and still get an announcement in the paper because he was going to be living there and that is where his family lives.Second,He did not release his full original birth certificate,He released the "short"form.Why would he not produce it for the court when asked?Why did he fight, McCain produced everything that was asked of him when his citizenship was questions.Why wouldnt Obama? Why fight it? "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:55 PM:

    " Reader, she ended up in Hawaii, because her father moved their family there to pursue a job. She was enrolled at the University of Hawaii .She met Barack Obama Sr. in a Russian-language class. He was one of the first Africans to attend the University of Hawaii and a focus of great curiosity. "

    A reader wrote on Nov 8, 2008 2:08 PM:

    " What was his white mother doing in Hawaii anyway?? "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:59 AM:

    " Further proof, Hawaii has two major newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin.
    BOTH newspapers include birth announcements, and BOTH newspapers record the August 4th, 1961 birth of Barack Obama. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:59 AM:

    " AC,Obama has released his birth certificate.That some of the public refuses to believe it at this point is their problem.The fact is in the state of Hawaii does not allow officials to release the birth certificate of a person to someone outside of the family. (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18)The director of the Department of Health for the state of Hawaii, Dr. Chiyome Fukino,
    along with the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. "

    Kim B wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:08 PM:

    " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

    Take a look at it. Even you think he is a US citizen. It is intresting! "

    AC wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:02 PM:

    " Then why not produce it for the Media to see and Hold onto. Why only select people? What was the point of the state in sealing it so no one can see it. WHY? WHY? WHY? Obama fought TOOTH AND NAIL in that federal court case to not have to produce the birth certificate. This sounds like a cover-up if I have ever heard one. If it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, What it is? "

    Tim wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:54 PM:

    " Yes, but is Hawaii really a state? Next they'll try to elect someone from the Russian province of Alaska. "

    Kimbro aka Kim wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:32 AM:

    " Lets put these worries to rest shall we?
    Here is a link with pertinent links

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=urbanlegends&cdn=newsissues&tm=46&gps=265_1843_1276_631&f=21&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    If you want to read the article, make certain to read in in its entirety. Otherwise go to the bottom&click on the blue highlighted part under "The Associated Press" Hawaii clearly states as of October 31,2008 that there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii .If you insist on the paranoia run with it, but the majority of America has spoken and so has State of Hawaii Department of Health and so has registrar of vital statistics.C'est tout. "

    To Kim B wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:02 AM:

    " You may have something there, I'll check into it. Hmmmm "

    City Limits wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:31 AM:

    " He will provide his Kenya Birth Certificate when his term is over, and then laugh in all the people's faces that voted for him and believed everything he said. Like Shorty Lo said " Laughing at these sucka's like ha ha ha". "

    Birth Certificate wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:24 AM:

    " Also, Philadelphia attorney, Philip J. Berg brought suite against Obama claiming his birth certificate was fake and that he was really born in Kenya. Monday, the Judge threw out the case and ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion." In addition to the birth certificate, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4. Read more about it here in the Philly Daily News: http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html "

    Birth Certificate wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:23 AM:

    " One more time...here is a copy of his birth certificate:

    http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg "

    I want to see it wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:06 PM:

    " I'm with you on this one, but that won't happen I'm sure. He doesn't want the truth to be known or he'd have to step down. "

    Amazing .. wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:00 PM:

    " My child has to provide an certified birth certificate to play little league baseball and the same is not required to run for the highest post in the land. Amazing isn't it. "

    looking for impeachment wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:38 PM:

    " I would love to see him prove us wrong. But, he went to Hawaii to "seal" his birth certificate. Couldn't that be "unsealed" through a court system. "

    Kim B wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:44 PM:

    " Yeah I would like to know that too.
    We should all make copies of ours send them to congress maybe after getting a few hundred thousand they will realize that "hey if this many people can find there's maybe he should too"
    I know that would never happen but its the point of the matter. "

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