what's wrong with limiting certain guns?

By cajuntiger
Published/Last Modified on Friday, October 24, 2008 5:21 AM CDT

I am not a bible thumping conservative nor am I a tax loving liberal. I hunt, own pistols, shotguns and rifles. I do not see anything wrong with limiting the availablity or use of machine guns, assualt weapons, silencers, or cannons. If anyone is in favor of keeping these dangerous , human killing devices from free public use, they are attacked as liberals who want to take away all our guns. The NRA has gone overboard in their protection of any and all weapons. Does anyone agree?

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Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:42 PM:

" To ALL,
It is TOO bad that OUR NRA went "belly-up" on us with the so-called "machine-gun" bans back in the 1980's! Yeah, dare I say it? During the time of "Moses" reign. Right, "from my cold dead fingers"! THAT'S a hoot!
Some of my favorites: M-16A1, Thompson, Mac-10 & 11's, The BAR, M-14, and the H-K MP5K!
Let me know if you find an MP5K for under $20,000!
I remember one sales pitch; Buy a Thompson for $750, and you get a FREE MAC-10! Oh, to have had MORE money back in the 1970's! "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:22 PM:

" To MANY,
Why do you insist on STILL calling an AR-15, an "assault" rifle?
May I ask, who are you planning on assaulting?
Do you get it yet? The anti-gun, liberal press has even YOU brainwashed into believing the gun may be "inherrently dangerous". After all, it IS an "assault rifle", says the gun owner himself!
It is ALL "perception". It is what one believes, WITHOUT knowledge!
Remember your words, especially when the government comes looking for your "military sporter". "

Glenn Bacala wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:24 PM:

" I own several pistols, Shotguns and rifles (Both sporting and assault types). I am also licensed to carry a conceled weapon. I enjoy the right to own and carry firearms. I also enjoy going to the shooting range and emptying a large capicity clip with my AR-15 or AK-47. There is nothing wrong or indecent with enjoying guns just as some people enjoy collecting cars and taking a classic muscle car out for a drive or a trip to the track to burn some rubber. Why do 10% of the people attract 90% of the attention? "

DAVID wrote on Nov 7, 2008 12:12 PM:

" US Constitution Amendment 2 :
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Does this appear to specify what type of weapons a person shall possess ? Allow laws to limit one right and a legal precedent has been set . Common sense must be adhered to when choosing to possess or not possess any weapon and use thereof . Outlaw "ARMS" and and only outlaws shall posses them . Remember the hurricane Katrina aftermath and the illegal disarming ? "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:07 AM:

" To Elmer Keith,
I'm so glad to see you are still writing, from the grave no less! It's been a long time since we last met, I hope all is well where you are!
Tell Doc "Chris" I said hello, thanks. I wish Doc and I had a little more time together to work out some of the "bugs" on the Ruger No.1!
Please let him know I fixed it, and it is GREAT!
My oldest son has it now.
Thanks "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:52 AM:

" To ALL,
I encourage ALL of you to go out and buy/borrow John Lott's book; More Guns, Less Crime.
It is an easy read on statistics! I understood it, so I know ANYONE will!
Please, pro-gun people, GET THE FACTS!
It is quite lame to keep reading "From my cold dead hands"!
If you have NO FACTS, don't opine! In this case, "Ignorance is NOT bliss"! It is only "ammo" for the anti's. "

Mike70560 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:22 PM:

" The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is about keeping sacred our ability to defend ourselves.

AC:
Auotmatic weapons and silencers can be legally owned, local stores typically do not have them but they can be ordered. A Federal Registration is required.

ZZrider
You are antigun and anti hunting by your statements. I have to say you are the first anti gunner to try to make the case that handguns are OK but rifles and shotguns are bad. BTW it is illegal to hunt tigers, loss of habitat has them on the endangered list "

To the uninformed wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:26 PM:

" Guns don't kill people, people kill people. I know several law abiding citizens that own AR 15 assault rifles. To my knowledge they have never committed a crime nor do I believe they engage in criminal behavior. So why should we limit people's choice of the firearm of their choice? Last time I checked the amendment doesn't say you can own any gun except for the ones that are killing machines. Just to f.y.i a .22 caliber weapon is probably the most dangerous caliber used in homicides. So should we ban them too? Where does it stop? "

rider wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:13 PM:

" People think that if you take away guns crime will go down, law abiding people will give up their guns! Criminals will not. If you think the police can protect you, than you are dumn as a rock. They can not respond to every crime as it is happening. IF you dont have a gun to protect yourself I suggest you place anything of value that you own on the curb, and pray to god that it satisifieds the theifs. But that might not be enough maybe they want to rape you or your daughter. "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:24 PM:

" To RJB,
You have been deluded! The "illegal" guns that are being talked about, are the VERY same guns we already have! The semi-auto's, like Glock's, Sig's, Beretta's, etc, are on the first line to be taken away! Why? Because they have the "large capacity" magazines! As if that will make them "more lethal", whatever that means!
Once that is done, they will follow-up with ALL of the rest of the "semi-autos". Just because they too can shoot "very fast", and be reloaded "quickly"!
After "they" are outlawed, the revolver will be deemed "to dangerous", and taken away!... "

rjb wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:30 AM:

" Ya know, CARS kill people, too...and some MEDICATIONS kill people, too..I'm thinking they should be outlawed, too...Oh, and Southern Fried Brain, I'm inclined to go one step further than your idea of having the same kinda guns and ammo that police use. I would be happier being able to have the same weapons and ammo that CRIMINALS use. That way, I'm on a level playing field with them! Word is the new prez is gonna go after the "illegal" guns first. So I don't think we have to worry. They'll be looking for THOSE for the next 100 years! "

Different View wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:21 PM:

" Let's look at this a different way. You say let's change the rules (2nd Amendment) just a little. No harm? Right? Well what if we start changing other rules (1st Amendment or 4th Amendment) Maybe your public speech is just a little too radical or maybe you won't mind giving up some of your rights regarding search and seizure. The point is, when you allow intrusion on any one right, you open the door to having all of your basic rights tampered with. I'm sure your concerns are noble, but no thanks. "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:08 PM:

" To ALL,
Just think of Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, ANY Chinese leader {after the revolution}, or George Soros! They ALL want(ed) strict Gun Control Laws!
George Soros is the last one alive of this "rogues' gallery" of enemies of the people!
And Soros has planted Hundreds of millions of HIS dollars into the DEM(on)CRATIC party!
But I will stop for now. I'm going off base with this. "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:58 PM:

" To ALL,
By the way, does anyone out there know the history of "gun control laws"?
ALL "GCL's" were put in place to keep the poor people from revolting against their "benevolent governments"! From the first time a Lord found that a bullet fired from any angry serf would penetrate his suit-of-armor, or a highly trained martial artist {remember the Shogun I mentioned in an earlier post?} found he was ineffective to an armed farmer? ALL of the laws passed/forced upon people could NOT be ENforced, if citizens had the means to revolt! NO GUNS, NO REVOLUTION! ... "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:46 PM:

" To ALL,
Not only that, BUT the firearms industry is one of the most heavily regulated by our "benevolent" government already!
I, personally, wish ONLY to be allowed to use the "SAME TYPE" of firearms as our police/sheriffs departments use! Also, I wish to have the same "type" of ammunition as they have! If it is good for them, it MUST be good for ME! After all, they usually show up in time to gather ALL of the pertinent information as to WHAT HAS happened! This is NO slight to ANY SO/PO out there, just-the-FACT!! ... "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:37 PM:

" To ALL,
All the media is doing is trying to fragment the HONEST gun owners!
If they talk about the "bad" guns long enough, and in a negative way, they have done their jobs very well!!
Because some of you are believing one "type" of firearm is "more dangerous/lethal" than the next! How much more simple can it be? Hey, you with the scoped target/hunting rifle, why do you have a "sniper rifle"? Rifles, pistols, shotguns, full-autos, suppressors, grenade launchers, in fact even tanks and APC's are ALL legal to both OWN and OPERATE! continued... "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:29 PM:

" To ALL,
Years ago, it was the "Saturday Night Special" that was the scourge of the "Anti-gun" lobby. Yet, not one person can/has EVER described one!
Then it became "Assault rifles". Can anyone give a specific meaning to that term? I mean, some say it has a large capacity magazine, or a "bayonet lug", or a pistol grip. BUT WHAT IS IT??
Some in the media interchange "auto, semi-auto, full auto, and machine-gun"! They are really showing their ignorant bias!!
Now they are using the "large capacity magazine" argument for handguns! What FOOLS! continued... "

Southern Fried Brain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:19 PM:

" To ALL,
NO gun should be banned! Just like "Nothing in the Constitution should be changed!"
Which Amendment don't we need? Which are YOU willing to throw away? Why not get rid of the 1st Amendment? Maybe we should only hear what our government THINKS we need to hear?
How about giving up your computer? You are reading/contributing to "unpatriotic" speech{?}! How about we go back to "Only landowners can vote, because they are the ones who stand to loose the most"?
Some of the thoughts and comments posted here are ridiculous, PLEASE educate yourself, or ASK for help! "

OILFIELD-TRASH wrote on Nov 3, 2008 7:28 PM:

" If our forefathers had just given their guns to the red coats we'd all be speaking with a British accent. Look, I don't consider myself a "collector" and I own 4 handguns, 3 high powered hunting rifles, 1 SKS assault rifle, and 7 shotguns. I enjoy shooting and hunting. I'm not a criminal. I'm not hurting anyone. I feel that I have a certain degree of protection for myself and my family because I, and they, are armed. We refuse to be victims. We use gun safety, shooting sports, and hunting in order to spend quality family time together.-I-will-not-lay-down-my-arms-for-any-government....."From-my-cold-dead-fingers"-is right. "

to ZZ wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:23 AM:

" Please explain to me how you feel limiting ownership of certain guns will help improve society?? #1 law abiding citizens are not the ones causing the crimes - criminals are- when you take guns away from HONEST citizens Criminals still have them only we don't. Once you ban one gun, then others will follow and soon we'll be like England only muzzle loading hunting rifles approved by their gov. allowed. No thank you!
And Please explain the Environment Issue. Lost me there?? "

zzriderr wrote on Oct 29, 2008 4:56 PM:

" seriously, I'm not against gun ownership or hunting. I practice both (with Bow) but I am open to the possiblity that the limitation of guns and certain hunting will positively impact our society and enviroment I am willing to listen and consider. I don't beleive any of you are. if martial law is called non of you will do anything. your guns are not for the goverment but whom, some scary imaginary boegy man,a hand gun can do that..save the animals "

To ZZ Wronger wrote on Oct 29, 2008 1:40 PM:

" Actually, the majority of extinct animals are not from HUMAN hunters they are from other animal hunters,starvation, destroyed living habitat, climate cycles, inbreeding, which makes a weaker animal, thus causing the species to die out. Any form of hunting takes skill.
Bow Hunters are not the only hunters who track. If you think having more than one of each kind of gun is too much, then all collectors should not have more than one of what they collect. Turn about is fair play. Personally own 24 guns. Use them all. "

NObama wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:32 PM:

" If anyone tries to take my hunting rifle they will become an extinct species. "From my cold dead hands" "

zzriderr wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:07 AM:

" I appreciate all the disparaging comments from all you experts out there. I guess thats why we have so many extinct species. Tracking is a skill, using a bow and arrow is a skill, sitting in a perch or in a ditch waiting for prey to come along to shoot is not a skill. a Hand gun for protection is fine, five rifles, shotguns or automatic weapons and grenade launchers are not. the animal kindgom takes care of proliferation itself burl roberts "

what wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:25 PM:

" Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall NOT be infringed.

Just TRY and take my guns. "

artabr the non-hunter wrote on Oct 27, 2008 6:02 PM:

" Hey,CajunTiger, thanks for sitting on your lead butt while we NRA members fight for your right to own your pistols, shotguns & rifles. Remenber, your scoped rifle, in the eyes of the gun banners is a sniper rifle. Are you aware that Ted Kennedy tried to ban YOUR hunting bullets, calling them cop killers. Did you bother to put up a fight? Did you even have a clue? "

Yes Lets wrote on Oct 27, 2008 4:41 PM:

" yes let's have only police with weapons and when they decide to take over your homes and your lives and make all the decisions for you then we will be fully COMMUNIST for we will have no way to defend ourselves. Do you even know why the 2nd amdment was written?

Codification of the right to keep and bear arms into the Bill of Rights was influenced by a fear that the federal government would disarm the people in order to impose rule through a standing army or select militia "

To ZZ wrote on Oct 27, 2008 4:37 PM:

" Pick up a book and learn about animals take a class with the wildlife and fisheries or a conservationist class.
Animals in the wild, now have limited spaces to roam, assuming you live in a house you are part of this reason They will overbreed and strip the areas of the natural food. Hunting is a way of thinning the animal population in a positive way which is why some areas have a problem with wildlife invading "human" space. They restrict hunting. Which is worse feeding your family or allowing wildlife to starve? "

To zz wrote on Oct 27, 2008 4:31 PM:

" Do you hunt??
If you don't then you know not of which you speak. Hunting whether by gun or by bow and arrow takes skill and training. It is a tradition passed down in many families. It is THOSE families that don't have to worry what their children are doing or where they are. It is THOSE families whose children have respect for the earth and it's inhabitants large and small. Get a clue. "

to zzriderr wrote on Oct 27, 2008 2:09 PM:

" Think what you want, doesn't make it true hunny. You need a reality check because what these people are telling you is from experience and understanding which you seem to lack a great deal of. But hey, if you want to believe that, don't complain when your home is broken into and you have no defence against the preditor. Truthfully I hope you never have to go through that but there is no guarentee with some of the crazies out there today, particularly the way some of these judges let them go-with-nothing-more-than-a-slap-on-the-wrist. "

AC wrote on Oct 27, 2008 12:43 PM:

" Can you go to a gun shop and buy a fully automatic weapon? Can you go to a gun shop and buy a scilencer? Can you go to a gun shop and buy a cannon? I really dont know because I have never tried. Buy my hunch is Probably not. Please tell me if you can though, and what store exactly. As for assult rifles, I think you can buy some simi-auto assult rifles. So what? Whats the difference from a simi-auto assult rifle and a regular rifle? I seriously do want answers because I dont know. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 26, 2008 12:20 PM:

" Hey zride, guess what, crack cocaine is banned. So I guess the criminals don't do it, huh? Just cause you ban something for the law abiding folks doesnt mean the criminals will turn in their guns too. If guns were outlawed, the criminals would have it too easy. Lets go break into Zride and Nobama's house, I know they don't own a gun.

hey B. Hussein Obama.........

"FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS" "

zzriderr wrote on Oct 26, 2008 1:03 AM:

" I think you people are sick, hunting some poor defenseless animal, you call a sport.go hunt something ttat can fight back, like a bear or a tiger or a lion, go on a safari. you hunt deer, rabits, elks and stupid caribu and you feel macho, beleive you are challenging your skills. How about using a bow and arrow, thats a test of skill. all guns should be banned except for the police "

elmer keith wrote on Oct 25, 2008 2:26 PM:

" speaking as one who enjoys puttering agound with belt fed automatic weapons, I take umberage at the thesis posited by your post "

jUjU wrote on Oct 25, 2008 8:40 AM:

" It's just as Kim B said.

Once the government has "broken the ice" by getting the public to accept *limited* control over something that is guaranteed by the constitution, then the government gets to legislate the meaning of "limited". "

Whathahk and cc wrote on Oct 24, 2008 9:52 PM:

" Hay moron take one freedom and you've lost a freedom. And dummy it's stupid brain dammage sick people that kills people, not the cannon that he owns. And the NRA is a freedom fighter and fights for the freedom to bear arms not a caretaker of the metally disturbed. "

Keep the guns wrote on Oct 24, 2008 4:25 PM:

" For your information not everyone who owns these guns are crazed killing machines.
My husband is a gun collector and has serveral different types of fully automatics. A friend of his also has a grenade launcher. They don't use them but it is a hobby they have. Why should the government tell him he can't keep them? The people who actually use these guns don't get them leagally anyway. Guns laws don't protect honest people --just make it easier for criminals to violate your rights. "

AR 15 owner wrote on Oct 24, 2008 3:46 PM:

" If you give the gun control lobbyists an inch they will take a mile. it won't be just a ban on so called assault weapons, then it will be on semi-automatic weapons, then high caliber rifles till they take every firearm a law abiding citizen can legally possess. Look at Australia, some Providences of Canada, United Kingdom, Crime is higher in those countries When the firearms ban went into effect. No thanks, I don't want to become a victum to the criminals who will prey on the weak who don't have a way to protect themselves. "

Kim B wrote on Oct 24, 2008 3:38 PM:

" I think the NRA fights for all guns becuase if we give in a little the gov will just keep taken little by little. First it will be Machine guns, then your hand guns and the next thing you know they will be fighting to take away your shotguns and riffles. "

only criminals kill wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:25 PM:

" If you let them ban one gun, they will use it to ban all guns. Their will claim if one is a "killing machine" then they all are. A gun has never killed anyone, a person pulled the trigger. Anything the government touches goes to extremes. Look what animal rights are doing, fish have feelings therefore you should not allowed to fish. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. "

City Limits wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:24 PM:

" Does it all really matter? If they take all the guns or some of the guns, people will still be murdered. Take our guns (our protection) and raise our taxes. I love that, (not). This economy is going to keep sinking further and further until nothing is left. Now you got this Muslim that wants to be president and raise taxes and take our guns, oh yippie something to look foward to raising 4 kids. More money taken away from our children. I wish we would one day get a president that has some kind of common sense. "

practical wrote on Oct 24, 2008 7:12 AM:

" The criminals don't obey the law. They will have what ever gun they want, so what is the point? "

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